I don't think there is too much difference between our opinions
my point was in general what you say is absolutely correct, but in california, the situation may not be the same. In CA, the housing prices are so high that lots of people are looking for real "deals" (because savings are limited :)), e.g. good location, good schools, decent lot size, etc., but normally ignore the "unimportant" factors, like kichen and bathroom remodelling (because buyers always think they can easily do it themselves -- you can change the kichen and bathroom but you can't change the neighbour and lot sizes, right?). I've seen so many houses that are decently remodeled, but either priced so high (because the remodeling has been priced in) or located in a so-so area. What I wanted to say was women normally care about the bathroom and kichen, but men look at other "important" factors that measure the house value, and men are usually the decision maker in a family. So, I remodel my kichen not mainly for the re-sale value. And my major concern was, if you model the kichen/bathroom too "personally" (like using red color, etc.), it may be hard to sell because not many people like red color in the kichen. So I'd rather remodel it with normal kichen color, like ivory and tan. Having house hunting for about 1 year, I think some normal rules (like what you point out) don't really work very well here...
all in all, thanks for the discussions... and i'll definitely remodel my kichen slowly (within my budget :D)
以下是引用gabbie在2004-7-16 11:17:02的发言：
FT!
我是针对你担心将来想卖房子不才写这个的，居然你……
其实我说的跟你们都不矛盾啊……
我举的例子是刚刚的，其他也有很多fix&sale的——当然我说的是investor。
举例子只是为了说明：房子装修对自己是舒适享受，对将来也有好处啊！
不就是想让你劝劝你LG舍得在厨房上投点钱么。
呵呵，你自己也看到了，你买的时候注意的是厨房和卫生间；
你在厨房和卫生间投了钱，将来卖房子的时候的确能回来不少的。
我再FT一把，看了半天没明白你们说的跟我的有什么分歧，
我只是针对resale来说的。
至于你说的listing；呵呵，如果remodle了，肯定比$52K还要多得多；
那是因为CA的房价高，这种价位的房子争的人很多；
又因为房价高，吸引很多investor缘故。
以下是引用cathylan在2004-7-16 2:12:12的发言：
说得太对了 ：) 自己享受是先，resale是其次
偶买房子的时候注意的就是厨房和卫生间
但是男人看房子一般都看其他的，但是make decision的一般都不是女人
所以...偶这个厨房和卫生间虽然设计旧了些，但是还是很干净明亮的，偶觉得还可以，舒服就行了...现在一时还拿不出许多钱完全remodel..慢慢来慢慢来...
不过加州的房子很不能说明问题是真的，偶看过一个single family home，2/2在OK的区，里面脏乱差，一塌糊涂，连地毯都不是一个颜色的，最后居然还卖了超过listing price 20K~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
(卖了520K)...就因为如此，所以很多人根本不remodel呵呵。
以下是引用robinsnow在2004-7-15 23:40:35的发言：
我觉得resale这么大的差距。。。肯定是豪宅啊。。。
而且通常都是从非常好的区里的烂房子开始的吧
一般人。。。中不留的地段。。。
木地板了，新厨房了， finished basement啦
肯定是加钱的。。。加不了这么多
另外。。。觉得remodel自己的房子
主要是为了住得舒服吧。。。。
没有道理。。。住了十年。。。什么都不倒吃
最后为了往出卖。。。弄了好多。。。那。。。早干什么去了。。。
干吗不自己先享受呢
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