买Obama care 到底算不算public charge？父母国内退休金还可以，但换成美元，也算低收入，OB care肯定有discount。这种算public charge吗？
relay 发表于 8/13/2019 1:23:01 PM [url=https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2443410&postid=81120641#81120641][img][/img][/url]

就算是退休金超过贫困线的125%，也不一定来得了。收入过线仅仅是不会一下就被拒。以后申请绿卡要看各自因素，比如年龄，会不会英语，健康状况，教育水平等。像中国退休老人，基本没有在美国就业的能力，而且年纪也大，所以很容易就被认为将来会成为public charge了。而且美国贫困线标准每年都要上调，而人民币汇率持续下滑，所以说不定今年你家老人刚刚过线，再拖两年申请绿卡时已经不达标了。家里老人没钱的，死了心吧，没戏。那些已经上车的老人，恭喜了，您福利接着吃。

我晕，第一次听说给爹妈申请绿卡要会不会英语的，入公民才要求英语测试，但是70岁还是多少岁可以waive掉的。我妈面试的时候直接有翻译，而且我记得很清楚，还提供，广东话，福州话，温州话，台山话的翻译。
也第一次听说要教育水平的。。。唯一的要求就是，子女是公民，可以提供经济担保

这几天板上哪里来的这么多莫名其妙的人啊

而且担保是子女担保，你爹妈都没合法居留资格，怎么来担保自己的合法居留资格啊，莫名其妙




glcm 发表于 8/13/2019 1:35:13 PM [url=https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2443410&postid=81120791#81120791][img][/img][/url]

你怕是没看最近的新闻吧？要不你先看新出的绿卡政策？

[url=https://www.uscis.gov/family/family-us-citizens/bringing-parents-live-united-states-permanent-residents]https://www.uscis.gov/family/family-us-citizens/bringing-parents-live-united-states-permanent-residents[/url]
glcm 发表于 8/13/2019 1:46:30 PM [url=https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2443410&postid=81120902#81120902][img][/img][/url]

你发的这个只是如何申请和表格，我不知道你发这个链接想证明你什么观点？什么都证明不了。

要不然我直接给你看昨天出台的政策好了。
[url=https://s3.amazonaws.com/public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2019-17142.pdf]https://s3.amazonaws.com/public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2019-17142.pdf[/url]

Inadmissibility on Public Charge Grounds

H. Public Charge Inadmissibility Determination Based on Totality ofCircumstancesI. Age1. Standard2. Age DiscriminationJ. Health1. Standard2. Health and Disability DiscriminationK. Family StatusL. Assets, Resources, and Financial Status1. Income Standard2. Evidence of Assets and Resources3. Public Benefits4. Fee Waivers for Immigration Benefits5. Credit Report and Score6. Financial Means to Pay for Medical CostsM. Education and Skills1. Education2. Language Proficiency3. Skills4. Employment

大家都说了啊。
是你英文不好。
你只要足够有钱保证不吃福利，就有绿卡啊。



大衣被禁 发表于 8/13/2019 1:56:31 PM [url=https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2443410&postid=81121020#81121020][img][/img][/url]

那也不一定。

你去看看新出台的各种决定因素，包括年龄，英语水平，教育程度，工作前景等。这些中国老人都没有。就算子女可以给父母买医保，老人也达不到其他要求。
Heavily Weighted Negative Factors
1. Lack of Employability
2. Current Receipt of One of More Public Benefit
3. Receipt of Public Benefits within 36 Months Before Filing
4. Financial Means to Pay for Medical Costs
5. Alien Previously Found Inadmissible or Deportable Based on Public Charge
第一个就算没有工作前景，这个中国老人完败。


Heavily Weighted Positive Factors
1. Proposed Standard
2. Additional Positive Heavily Weighted Factors
a. Affidavit of Support
b. Family Relationships
c. English Ability
d. Education
e. Private Health Insurance
f. Work History
g. Receipt of Grants, Contracts, and Licensures
h. Caregivers
i. Ability to Work in the Future
English Ability 和 Ability to Work in the Future，中国老人再次完败。

如果子女在美国只是普通人，比如家庭收入也就10几万那种，中国父母也是普通人，基本没可能。但是家里有钱还是有机会，直接卖一线城市的几套房子就有asset了。

H. Public Charge Inadmissibility Determination Based on Totality ofCircumstances
I. Age1. Standard2. Age Discrimination
J. Health1. Standard2. Health and Disability Discrimination
K. Family Status
L. Assets, Resources, and Financial Status
1. Income Standard
2. Evidence of Assets and Resources
3. Public Benefits
4. Fee Waivers for Immigration Benefits
5. Credit Report and Score
6. Financial Means to Pay for Medical Costs
M. Education and Skills1. Education2. Language Proficiency3. Skills4. Employment

现在还要看健康状况，而且不光只是检测传染病了，现在健康状况定义很广：medicalcondition that is likely to require extensive medical treatment orinstitutionalization or that will interfere with the alien’s ability to provide care forhimself or herself, to attend school, or to work. 中国老人分分钟都可以拒。

父母移民属于家庭团聚吧， 能不能工作怎么也能算条件？

BeHappy78 发表于 8/13/2019 2:10:11 PM [url=https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2443410&postid=81121138#81121138][img][/img][/url]

现在重点是public charge。家庭团聚只是给父母申请绿卡的理由，单单是这个理由已经不能给绿卡了，还要评估父母会不会成为public chagre。

Comment: Some commenters stated that an education requirement would be moredifficult for immigrant women, stating that immigrant women from certain countries,such as Mexico, El Salvador, and China, are less likely to have completed high school,and are therefore, less likely to overcome a negative assessment based on this factor.Similarly, a commenter stated that the negative weight for lack of a high school diplomaand lack of employment history would impact a significant portion of women from Asiancountries who are adjusting their status.Response: DHS will examine the totality of the individual’s circumstances,regardless of the individual’s nationality, sex or other characteristic, to assess whether theindividual is likely to become a public charge in the future. Among the factors toconsider, education and skills is but one factor and is not outcome determinative on itsown. When evaluating whether the alien has adequate education or skills to either obtainor maintain employment, USCIS’ considerations include, but are not limited to the alien’spast employment history; whether the alien has a high school degree or its equivalent, orany higher education; whether the alien has any occupational skills, certifications orlicenses; and the alien’s proficiency in the English or other languages in addition toEnglish. DHS also encourages the applicant to bring forward any consideration he or shebelieves are relevant to the determination whether the alien has sufficient education orskills to not become a public charge at any time in the future.
针对中国大妈还特意有优待哒


glcm 发表于 8/13/2019 2:22:36 PM [url=https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2443410&postid=81121285#81121285][img][/img][/url]

有个屁的优待，你贴个comment有什么用，你怎么不贴官方给这个comment的response呢？
Response: DHS will examine the totality of the individual’s circumstances,regardless of the individual’s nationality, sex or other characteristic, to assess whether theindividual is likely to become a public charge in the future. Among the factors toconsider, education and skills is but one factor and is not outcome determinative on itsown. When evaluating whether the alien has adequate education or skills to either obtainor maintain employment, USCIS’ considerations include, but are not limited to the alien’spast employment history; whether the alien has a high school degree or its equivalent, orany higher education; whether the alien has any occupational skills, certifications orlicenses; and the alien’s proficiency in the English or other languages in addition toEnglish. DHS also encourages the applicant to bring forward any consideration he or shebelieves are relevant to the determination whether the alien has sufficient education orskills to not become a public charge at any time in the future.

你觉得官方陈诺什么优待了？？？？？

那人没有看细则，那context来唬人

glcm 发表于 8/13/2019 2:23:04 PM [url=https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2443410&postid=81121294#81121294][img][/img][/url]

大姐，拜托，你连public's comments 和DHS' responses 都没搞清楚！！！

如果你父母连做保姆都不行，又没有资产，还有需要治疗的慢性病。那么来美国就是打算别人养老咯？
那不让他们来有什么问题呢？
别人的父母，可不一定英语水平教育程度工作前景没有啊。



大衣被禁 发表于 8/13/2019 2:17:09 PM [url=https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2443410&postid=81121226#81121226][img][/img][/url]

又一个乱投帽子的傻逼。就是在这里讨论，一旦意见不合一定被扣上"父母要来吃福利的”帽子。

我父母不会来的你放心，不嫌麻烦就人肉一下我的ID。 每次遇到你这种乱扣帽子的我都要提醒你去人肉我来证明你又脑补了，烦死。

按你说的，中国老人大部分会英语，来了美国还要打工，而且都健健康康没有任何病。哈哈哈哈，说这话你脸臊不臊？先看看你自己爹妈啥水平吧，他们托福考了几分啊，他们还能和美国人谈笑风生对吧。

我没说中国老人大多数怎么样。
我说不符合条件的不让来很合理。
我分享过我爸妈当年考g考t考的不错。
你可以去考古一下，不用脑补啦。
当然啦，我爸妈不爱来美国，一家团聚肯定是我海归方便。




大衣被禁 发表于 8/13/2019 2:40:26 PM [url=https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2443410&postid=81121475#81121475][img][/img][/url]

当年是多少年前？20年？30年？那你爸妈多年来英语长进了？能谈笑风生了？

对， 不符合条件不让来很合理，我也没说不合理啊，我就是说新政策下中国老人大部分不符合啊？不就是为了回答楼主的问题吗。你就别乱扣帽子了。

建议你既然你要海归就快归吧，还在论坛上讨论美国的事情岂不是浪费你的时间，反正你都是要海归的。

Response: DHS will examine the totality of the individual’s circumstances,regardless of the individual’s nationality, sex or other characteristic, to assess whether theindividual is likely to become a public charge in the future. Among the factors toconsider, education and skills is but one factor and is not outcome determinative on itsown. When evaluating whether the alien has adequate education or skills to either obtainor maintain employment, USCIS’ considerations include, but are not limited to the alien’spast employment history; whether the alien has a high school degree or its equivalent, orany higher education; whether the alien has any occupational skills, certifications orlicenses; and the alien’s proficiency in the English or other languages in addition toEnglish. DHS also encourages the applicant to bring forward any consideration he or shebelieves are relevant to the determination whether the alien has sufficient education orskills to not become a public charge at any time in the future.



你笑死我了，把字母学学好，单词慢慢来


glcm 发表于 8/13/2019 3:00:11 PM [url=https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2443410&postid=81121674#81121674][img][/img][/url]

那大姐，您英语真好，您给解释一下有什么优待吧？？？ 还优待您啊？少给你自己脸上贴金行不？

没长进，不能谈笑风生。我没看要求能谈笑风生啊？您看见了吗？
什么叫大多数中国老人不符合？guideline 都没出来，您都知道谁符合谁不符合？也可能人家要求70一下，高中学历，会abc啊。
我没说我要海归啊，我说要团聚就海归。我家不要团聚啊。
所以啊，我说啊，你总爱脑补瞎说，添油加醋。拉黑。




大衣被禁 发表于 8/13/2019 2:55:17 PM [url=https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2443410&postid=81121615#81121615][img][/img][/url]

昨天就出来了，还说没出来。没出来能成新闻？这么多条件，大多数中国老人当然不符合了。估计一半亲属绿卡要被卡。没这么大影响的话为什么是昨天头条新闻呢。真是傻白甜。

唉哟，你歇歇吧，我原来以为你只是不懂单词，后来发现你字母也看不懂
把我的内容里后半部再贴一遍，然后说你为什么不贴呢，我也无语了，看不懂字母就学啊，难民是免费的啊


glcm 发表于 8/13/2019 2:57:48 PM [url=https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2443410&postid=81121645#81121645][img][/img][/url]

首先这位大姐复制粘贴连分段都不会。再来我还是那句话，您给解释一下对中国大妈有什么优待吧，凭什么给优待啊，因为你是难民吗？