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我老公的结论是：主要因为她是犹太人那么多犹太人呢，难道个个都这么成功？我觉得她很重要的是非常清楚自己的目标，所以第一次很快离婚，她后来的老公就很支持她的想法。所以年轻女子择偶重要，也需要自己有能力，老公可以欣赏你
littlepeanut2012 发表于 4/6/2017 5:02:20 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2153378&postid=74544248#74544248][/url]
楼主知道为啥职业妇女和家庭妇女总是吵来吵去的吗？那美国人的mommy war 是怎么回事？只能说人性是相通的
很简单，因为论坛大 boss 希望的啊，不然论坛哪来的流量啊。
就这次来说，事件导火索是一个不知道猴年马月的家庭妇女职业妇女吵架帖莫名其妙又被捞到了首页头条。。。
所以你真的错怪华人大妈了，虽然总有些人没事儿就想吵吵，但是毕竟月经贴吵来吵去这么点儿花样不少人也真的腻了。。。
莫小贝 发表于 4/6/2017 5:08:57 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2153378&postid=74544299#74544299]
那美国人的mommy war 是怎么回事？只能说人性是相通的那肯定的，肯定有人想不开啊。我的意思就是，华人上三天两头类似贴特别多，跟坛主引导也有一定关系，所以看看就一笑而过吧。
QQQ1000 发表于 4/6/2017 5:10:51 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2153378&postid=74544314#74544314]
楼主知道为啥职业妇女和家庭妇女总是吵来吵去的吗？好有道理！
很简单，因为论坛大 boss 希望的啊，不然论坛哪来的流量啊。
就这次来说，事件导火索是一个不知道猴年马月的家庭妇女职业妇女吵架帖莫名其妙又被捞到了首页头条。。。
所以你真的错怪华人大妈了，虽然总有些人没事儿就想吵吵，但是毕竟月经贴吵来吵去这么点儿花样不少人也真的腻了。。。
莫小贝 发表于 4/6/2017 5:08:57 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2153378&postid=74544299#74544299]
是的，就是因为很难，大家才有这么多共鸣，容易的话这本书就不会这么火了。我们不是要和这种名人比，重要的是和自己比，能不能勇敢地走自己想走的路。等你lean in完再说这个不迟 我其实觉得妇女解放运动就是对妇女的最大折磨
QQQ1000 发表于 4/6/2017 5:04:52 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2153378&postid=74544267#74544267]
那肯定的，肯定有人想不开啊。我的意思就是，华人上三天两头类似贴特别多，跟坛主引导也有一定关系，所以看看就一笑而过吧。我一般看个题目我就不看了，但我主要是真心想给年轻妹子推荐这本书
莫小贝 发表于 4/6/2017 5:13:20 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2153378&postid=74544326#74544326]
很多年没有一口气读完一本书了，也听说这本书很久了。终于把它从图书馆借回来，这几天几乎有空的时候就在看这本书，看完我在想，如果十年前读到这本书，我的人生会不会有很大的改变呢？我想会有的，因为我现在就想改变，也对自己的想法更自信一些了。强烈推荐板上年轻的妹纸们去读，特别是对自己的人生有更高期待的妹子，会对你的职业规划和择偶标准有很大启发。 这本书讲了很多关于两性平等，提到mommy war,就是家庭主妇和职业妇女之间的战争，说明美国社会也是和我们一样充满了各种互相看不起。我非常赞同她说的原因，两方都是不够自信，没有安全感，所以打击一方来justify自己的选择。如果你自己内心强大，非常自信自己的选择，不管做哪个选择都应该很坦然，会体谅做另一种选择的人。读过这本书的妹子来讨论一下吧我觉得她的例子不是一般人可以做的的。首先自己要先非常成功，所以一些事情就有了flexibility, 比如可以按时回家和家人吃饭，在开会。一般人是没有这种特权的，自己的老板即使网开一面，心里也有计较。她老公也算是大部分时间照顾家里了（随她工作搬家之类的）。反正我们原来公司比较高层的女的想要一些flexibility，都是会被挤压的。归根结底， 以整个家庭的利益最大化为目标。老公强点，老婆多照顾家里，反之亦然。两个人都好强，家里必须有backup，老人，nanny之类的。选择一条适合自己的道路，自己开心就好。
QQQ1000 发表于 4/6/2017 4:57:19 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2153378&postid=74544202#74544202]
[url=http://nypost.com/2017/04/02/is-leaning-in-a-joke-a-scam-or-both/]http://nypost.com/2017/04/02/is-leaning-in-a-joke-a-scam-or-both/[/url]it is not about how many people want to be CEOor senator. It is about if we should give in before we are limited, at least it is what I got from the book.
Women, you lazy bums, you can have it all — if you just work at it. So said Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg’s seminal book from 2013, “Lean In: Women, Work, and the Will to Lead,” anyway, though the “lazy bums” part was implied.
With chapters like “Sit at the table” and “Don’t leave before you leave,” Sandberg managed the feat of writing a celebrated feminist work that essentially spent 200 pages insulting women to their faces.
In the years since, “lean in” has become a running joke to many, something with which women ironically tag their Instagram selfies. Here I am on a conference call after my toddler puked on me, #leaningin. Or: Here I am wearing uncomfortable shoes to a job interview, #leaning in.
Four years later, Sandberg admits little has changed since her book appeared — at least according to her metric: “We are stuck at less than 6 percent of the Fortune 500 CEO jobs and their equivalent in almost every country in the world,” she told USA Today’s Jessica Guynn. “There were 19 countries run by women when ‘Lean In’ was published. Today there are 11. Congressional numbers have inched up a tiny bit. And so, overall, we are not seeing a major increase in female leadership in any industry or in any government in the world.”
Sandberg is encouraged, however, by “Lean In Circles,” groups of women who get together to espouse Sandberg’s philosophy. If I wrote a hit book and rubes were getting together to promote my brand, I might be similarly encouraged.
Though perhaps I’d feel a twinge of guilt over plumbing eager women’s expendable income to boost my book sales.
Most susceptible to this hustle are previously overachieving women who feel guilty about their muted role at work because they actually prefer to “lean in” at home with their kids.
Sandberg’s marks continue to believe that women are suffering, penalized by men and unable to advance due to the unfortunate accident of their gender.
By all objective measures, women are in a great place in 2017, and it’s getting better all the time. Far more women than men go to college. Women are the primary breadwinners in 40 percent of households with children. In 2007, 90 women served in Congress, described at the time as a “record number” by the CRS Report for Congress. Today there are 104. There have been 50 women senators in the entire history of our country and 21 of them serve currently.
The problem is that it remains in the financial interest of many feminist leaders to keep us worried and feeling like we aren’t achieving enough. If you do think you’re doing OK as a woman in America today, you’re told to check your privilege and try to relate to a woman who is struggling. We end up grasping at straws trying to empathize.
In a USA Today piece this month about what women want, University of Houston political historian Nancy Young said, “My right to vote as an upper-class white woman with multiple college degrees is not in jeopardy but what about a working-class African-American woman or Hispanic woman?” Also not in jeopardy.
But saying that things are going well for women, better than ever before, just doesn’t sell enough books or get women riled up enough to march in the streets. Pretending our rights can be snatched from us at any moment or that women as a group are failing professionally are much more useful in keeping women agitated.
In her book, Sandberg admits that women in America are in a good place but laments that men continue to “run the world.” Her goal is numerical parity — that is, having 50 percent of CEOs and members of Congress and world leaders be women. But that’s a shallow form of equality, and a silly way to judge.
A truly pro-woman, pro-equality stance wouldn’t require a certain number of women be drafted onto various industry boards so snake-oil saleswomen like Sandberg can claim credit. The goal, instead, should be to ensure women have those options and letting them decide for themselves.
There’s just not a lot of evidence that a majority of women want to be senators or CEOs. Some do, of course, but we’re not matching Sandberg’s numbers because lots of women have other priorities — they value things Sandberg doesn’t think they should.
How feminist of them, and how backward of her.
beefcuurtain750 发表于 4/6/2017 5:13:52 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2153378&postid=74544330#74544330]
读的时候心潮澎湃 读完了真要lean in的时候才知道女性投入工作都障碍有多大同意。只能选择适合自己，适合家庭的道路。当然没娃之前，没那么多事， 还是要好好努力，提高自己。
i机器人 发表于 4/6/2017 5:00:51 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2153378&postid=74544236#74544236]
等你lean in完再说这个不迟 我其实觉得妇女解放运动就是对妇女的最大折磨所以要看准老公，老公能够承担一半的家务。所以书里强调这个，也强调男性也需要读这本书。我的感觉是社会离真正女性解放还很远。如果你说妇女解放是折磨的话，搁在以前我们恐怕都不能上大学，也没有话语权
现在大部分妇女是又要工作又要管家 老公能帮多少呢？大部分都不能均分家务吧 lean in这种要强的女性还不是一把辛酸泪 说的容易做起来难
i机器人 发表于 4/6/2017 5:18:17 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2153378&postid=74544358#74544358]
那美国人的mommy war 是怎么回事？只能说人性是相通的我们这代人默认家里妈妈都是上班的，美国妇女解放时间较短，很多人长大时家里妈妈还是主妇，她们吵得更厉害。
QQQ1000 发表于 4/6/2017 5:10:51 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2153378&postid=74544314#74544314]
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