FAUCI: DATA SHOWS REMDESIVIR `CLEAR CUT' POSITIVE EFFECT

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Dr. Anthony Fauci, the NIAID’s director, told reporters at the White House that the results “don’t seem like a knockout,” though he noted that “it is a very important proof of concept.”


violabb 发表于 4/29/2020 12:25:58 PM [url=https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2541213&postid=83810428#83810428][img][/img][/url]

Cnbc 就有啊

[url=https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/29/dr-anthony-fauci-says-data-from-remdesivir-coronavirus-drug-trial-shows-quite-good-news.html]https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/29/dr-anthony-fauci-says-data-from-remdesivir-coronavirus-drug-trial-shows-quite-good-news.html[/url]

Fauci said he was told data from the trial showed a “clear cut positive effect in diminishing time to recover.”
怎么能理解成
FAUCI: DATA SHOWS REMDESIVIR `CLEAR CUT' POSITIVE EFFECT

violabb 发表于 4/29/2020 12:35:14 PM [url=https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2541213&postid=83810542#83810542][img][/img][/url]

他这种级别的不都是being told ? 你还真期待他跳下来自己分析数据??? 揣着明白装糊涂吗?
再者 文章第一段 White House health advisor Dr. Anthony Fauci said Wednesday that data from a coronavirus drug trial testing [url=https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/?symbol=GILD]Gilead Sciences[/url]’ antiviral drug remdesivir showed “quite good news.” contrast that with his statement on hydroxycholoroquinine

[url=https://rd2.huaren.us/huaren.php?hrtopic_id=2541213&hrurl=https%3a%2f%2ftwitter.com%2fCNBCnow%2fstatus%2f1255541907687702528%3fs%3d09]https://twitter.com/CNBCnow/status/1255541907687702528?s=09[/url] Dr fauci 被采访的原视频。disclaimer 我还没看完。

能自愈的病人
吃药和不吃药结果一样
人家好了就是人民希望有用
这个结果就是用来操纵市场的



miss6161 发表于 4/29/2020 2:09:13 PM [url=https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2541213&postid=83811962#83811962][img][/img][/url]

你第一句话不对。
一个药若能将病程缩短哪怕25%的时间，对医院对经济对社会的正面影响都会是巨大的。ask any economist, doctor, public health guy。因为我们现在讨论的不是单一的个体，而是指数成长的pandemic

我希望看到两组都是15天的结果. 你要知道第一个组吃了药之后11天并不是都好了,11天之后死的就不计在内了


atomicmass 发表于 4/29/2020 2:19:35 PM [url=https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2541213&postid=83812125#83812125][img][/img][/url]

不太明白你的意思。上面有人引用time to recover is 11 days， recover的含义应该包括继续活下去吧

偷偷用了别人给的药方其实有用，然后还非要告诉别人你们这药没用千万别用，怎么能这么坏！

Gelatoweenie 发表于 4/29/2020 3:17:49 PM [url=https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2541213&postid=83813051#83813051][img][/img][/url]

意思应该就是 remdesivir 不能在中国卖了。至于会不会进一步操作把仿药换个包装当作神药单独或跟其他中国特色药组合卖，就不清楚了

应该把Fauci的话贴完整：
Dr. Anthony Fauci, the NIAID's director, told reporters at the White House that remdesivir had "a clear cut significant positive effect in diminishing
the time to recovery." He said the mortality rate was lower in the remdesivir group (8%), when compared with those taking the placebo (11%),
noting that it's not yet a statistically significant finding. However, he further cemented his support for the remdesivir data, saying "this will be
the standard of care."




buzhidao2000 发表于 4/29/2020 4:51:47 PM [url=https://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2541213&postid=83814368#83814368][img][/img][/url]

clear cut significant positive effect是好几家新闻的headline。。。我后来贴的cnbc文章写的更详细，跟你这段大同小异
只是想clarify一下，不然楼里有些人好像觉得我是故意隐瞒还是怎得。。还有一部分ID也与fauci和新闻相左，很明显不认为这属于任何 positive effect