国内抓了很多人权律师

michelia.alba 发表于 2022-01-31 10:24

709大抓捕，抓了上百人

党妈这么多年不管人口贩卖甚至明地支持，原来是下的大棋

trayanh 发表于 2022-01-31 23:13

也不怕竭泽而渔，让普通女性更不敢生孩子！

我觉得外文报告应该有更多详情。比如说可能是未成年就被拐卖和强奸。牙齿被暴力拔光，等等。这些细节很让人震撼和难受的。这样才会有更多的人关注和跟进。

ihatemylife 发表于 2022-02-04 21:47

我没看到外文报道里有把李莹和8娃妈联系起来的。理解他们只想用已经被证实的消息，但是她们的照片放在一起真的是冲击太大了，不知道骄傲女孩不能不把他们比对的信息发给这些外媒？

这也是个很好的思路哦！如果有懂移民法的姐妹能解解惑就好了。

ocmom 发表于 2022-02-04 22:37

有在NGO工作经验的姐妹也可以分享下tips~~

我觉得欧美已经懒得管中国的事了，因为他们跟中国做生意，签的合同都不管用，逼得他们只能撤资撤厂，人家已经打算绝交了，连香港台湾这种都未必管，更别提内陆黄泛区这种地带了，改开时期都没有外国工厂开在徐州丰县这种刁民不讲理的地方吧？？以前的外国投资的工厂也大部分在东南沿海发达地域，他们当时都不愿意来黄泛区，更别提现在了。类似事件在中国以百万计，靠欧美国家的秩序输出来惩罚罪恶根本不现实。

catakiri 发表于 2022-02-04 23:53

新疆集中营被外媒报道之后，中国政府把主要外媒记者都驱逐出境了，只剩了彭博路透的几个财经记者。这种爆炸性新闻（拐卖幼女，轮奸，虐待），主要媒体必须要核实消息来源的，那没有记者在境内拿到第一手资料，核实第二手资料也肯定很困难，他们谨慎是可以预期的。

你去看看骄傲女孩的Twitter，她们请人做了分析，确定是李莹。

wenxinhemu 发表于 2022-02-05 00:17

很想看到她们把分析贴出来，而不是只说一下多个机构做了鉴定。

我去！怎么招惹上毛轮了？

pinkymania 发表于 2022-02-05 12:40

毛轮最可怕了，还连篇累牍，以为能说服谁呢？

最让我愤慨憎恶的，并不仅仅是这些恶性事件，因为这样的恶性事件也可能发生在这世界上许多角落，而是这些恶性事件被揭露后所发生的……何成惠被找到时家人还给她的“丈夫”生活补贴，因为他17年来一直帮忙“照顾”女儿；曹小青第一次被卖两年后就被找到，但因为看到“女婿”对女儿还算“照顾”有加，家人选择接受现实，导致她后来又被卖了三次；陈倩第一次逃出小红楼之后请银行柜员报案，结果警方以“家庭纠纷”为由不予立案，还劝她“跟着赵富强不是挺好的嘛”；最魔幻的是郜艳敏，竟然被冠以“最美乡村教师”的头衔，成就了一部以歌颂正能量的反人类电影《嫁给大山的女人》！明明就是执法部门失职，评选机构病态，父母亲友无情，所以说，最可怕的不是犯罪，而是对犯罪的集体性麻木！

bbhelen 发表于 2022-02-06 00:45

可怕😨，恶太根深蒂固，没有外力逼迫真的是会一直持续下去

回复 1683楼kittyblue的帖子

“同村的桑某某（女，当时已嫁至江苏省东海县）将小花梅带至江苏治病。“

无父无母无兄弟姐妹。做不了DNA。凭照片就可以认定。。。呵呵，这是当全国观众弱智吧。

bw376 发表于 2022-02-07 11:12

他们估计好不容易才找到这么一个无父无母没有血缘关系的人吧！没有任何证据也敢拿出来说

无父无母无兄弟姐妹，堂兄弟姐妹表兄弟姐妹也没有吗？一样可以DNA鉴定。

云南福贡县就在缅甸边上的大山里面，就一个目的，让网络上的人无从查证。

sunshaoping 发表于 2022-02-07 20:19

她自己记得这么偏远县名却不记得自己名字；她家长托人从西南边陲把人带到东部治病却不给起个大名，CCAV来搞笑的吧！

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Soon, a grassroot volunteer organization discovered that a girl who was abducted on the way to school and claimed missing has undeniably identical features to Yang. The girl Ying was taken in 1997, and is believed to be a human trafficking victim. Her family is still looking for her. With the look, the year missing, and all other details match, it is widely believed that Yang is indeed Ying.

People who are related to the area or who have obtained information about the village stepped out with more information. The girl was "bought" by Dong''''s family from the traffickers, and used by the father and 2 sons sexually, one of which is Dong. Some local officials participated in raping as well. Ying was obstinate and never fawned at the rapists. She fought back with teeth and kicks. In order to make her more "obedient", Dong knocked off her teeth. One person also said that Ying was drugged to mute her voice.

The local government then issued another statement, saying they have compared with the DNA pool and Yang is not a registered missing person.

养貂的小昭 发表于 2022-02-07 20:58

大赞👍

有个细节，86至89年（出书时间）有4万多人被拐卖至徐州，不是整个80年代。

写好了我们签

hippogirl 发表于 2022-02-07 21:18

Co签~~~

根据大家的意见作了修改。我们可以一起签名寄送UNHRC，或用于petition。

To the United Nations Human Rights Council:

We are calling on the council for an urgent investigation into the human trafficking, sex enslaving, and a heinous human rights violation case in Xuzhou, China. A woman, who is believed to be Ying Li, was a victim of human trafficking since 12, and has been a sex slave of a man who not only raped her but also had 8 children with her. She is seen in the picture locked up with an industrial chain, covered with a thin layer in winter in a scruffy hut. The horrid fact is, Ying is not the only sex slave in the village. Evidence shows that there are at least several other women in the same if not worse situation.

Around Jan 29, an internet post raised the attention of the public. A man, Zhimin Dong, is showing off his 8 kids and government subsidy he received on TikTok. People noticed that in the background, there''''s a woman chained up in a squalid place, a hut with no isolation in winter. Dong claimed his wife, the woman in the picture, is mentally sick. The incident soon raised internet rage. Is it legal to chain up any individual in captivity? Was she mentally unwell before they were married, in which case the woman can be considered as unconsensual? And most importantly, was she abducted?

Two days later, the local government issued a statement saying that Xia Yang(the woman) was a local villager with mental disease, and that she was married to Dong in 1998. There was no abduction and she is locked up to keep people safe.

Soon, a grassroot volunteer organization discovered that a girl who was abducted on the way to school and claimed missing has undeniably identical features to Yang. The girl Ying was taken in 1996 at the age of 12, and is believed to be a human trafficking victim. Her family is still looking for her. With the look, the year missing, and all other details match, it is widely believed that Xia is indeed Ying.

People who are related to the area or who have obtained information about the village stepped out with more information. The girl was "bought" by Dong''''s family from the traffickers, and used by the father and 2 sons sexually, one of which is Dong. Some local officials participated in raping as well. Xia was obstinate and never fawned at the rapists. She fought back with teeth and kicks. In order to make her more "obedient", Dong knocked off her teeth. One person also said that Xia was drugged to lose her voice.

The local government then issued another statement, saying they have compared with the DNA pool and Xia is not a registered missing person.

By then, Ying''''s mother has requested a DNA comparison with Xia, which is never granted. Xia is kept in a place no outsiders can approach to get a sample.

More truth swarmed in, stupefying the already gasping public. Villages around Xuzhou have a history of being one of the destinations of human trafficking. In the 80s, during the year 1986 to 1989, there were 40,000 human trafficking victims bought by the villagers as sex slaves. A rough calculation shows, today there are around 20,000 sex slaves in those villages. Human trafficking in Xuzhou has an industrial complex behind it. Unmarried guys can pay around 3,000 to 6,000 Yuan (around $500 to $1,000) to get a girl. The local government then created a new ID for the girl, and too marriage licenses. The new household then can claim government subsidy. Of course, sex slaves do fight back. They will get beaten up, drugged, or inhumanely tortured as a result. There''''s another woman "living" next to Xia''''s, is crawling on the ground in a more grubby hut. Her knees were knocked to pieces from an attempted run-away. Another one is hung to get beaten every other day. Some of them went insane in the living hell. About half of the rescued sex slaves are diagnosed of having mental illness.

Another question also emerged among all. There''''s a ten-year gap between Xia''''s 1st son and 2nd son. Xia has 7 boys and 1 girl, youngest 1 year old. The chance of getting such probability is thin. People suppose Yang has/had other kids. They could be girls. But no one could get a chance to talk to Xia. The village is sealed.

It is palpable by now that the Xuzhou local government has served as a shield in the human trafficking business. On the provincial level, neither Ying''''s birth place nor Xuzhou''''s governing province has uttered a sound despite the fuming lambasting from the public.

On Feb 7, the central government semi-officially stated that Xia has been identified. She is a woman of 52, from Yunnan Province, who was taken to treat her mental disease 20 years ago and got missing. She has no living relatives.

The public is giving backlash. Apparently, the numbers don''''t add up. There''''s no photographic or witness evidence either.

Till then, Ying''''s mother''''s DNA request is still not granted.

To date, Xia is segregated and confined to a mental institution, no volunteer or social worker allowed to visit. The truth is prevented to be found out by the state apparatus.

According to all the information gleaned so far, Yang is not simply a psychotic woman who is not treated properly. There''''s much more behind it. The whole occurrence is not only a human rights violation case, but a consortium of crimes on multiple levels and with horrendous magnitudes. Yang was abducted, human trafficked, raped, sexually abused and assaulted, used as a reproductive machine, manhandled, and much more.

Let''''s ask a few questions:

- Why isn''''t a DNA comparison approved?

- Why can''''t Ying''''s mother meet Xia to find out what she remembers?

- Why isn''''t the local government answering on what base did they issued the press releases that are contradicting each other?

- How many more women like Yang are there in the same village? Same city? Same province?

- What is being done to help them?

In so, we urgently request that the counsel send out an independent investigation panel to evaluate the situation. With human trafficking as a protected business, women in China as a collective group is facing danger. The state apparatus is failing us.

We feel for Xia. Any human being''''s heart would pain at such hideous crime. She is our daughter, sister, cousin... She was us. Remember, she, a sweet teenage girl much loved and cared for, was on her way to school one day, suddenly blacked out, and woke up in a living hell, with no one there to help. It could happen to anyone if we can''''t find out the truth.

We want the truth. We need the truth.

Appendix

• photo comparison of Xia and Ying
• Photo of Xia chained to the hut
• the next door woman crawling on the mud ground
• Ying''''s uncle''''s letter
• Volunteer organization Proud Girl''''s photo evidence

养貂的小昭 发表于 2022-02-08 22:06

MM太赞👍了，这么快就写了出来

可以多管齐下，UNHRC 可以发一份信，change.org也可以发一份petition

change.org上已经有了，不过这个真没啥用

gourdcn 发表于 2022-02-08 23:28

还是有用的，签的人多了大的媒体会注意。推特上推给他们个链接也方便。

有可能 她对国内情况肯定更了解 也肯定想到了可能的后果 权衡之后发声更值得尊敬

bananamm 发表于 2022-02-09 00:17

她怎么可能发声？纽时想采访她，她的条件是问题要先提交，发表前也要审核，所以最后就没采访成。她绝对不会说任何让政府不高兴的话

华邮报道了，而且有很多最近的细节！

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/02/09/china-chained-xuzhou-mother-human-trafficking/

推荐一个微信公众号：＂海边的西塞罗＂他2月6号写了一篇＂从请刘备吃人，到用铁链栓妻，有些可怕的事儿，可能从来没变过＂。

中原，这三国演义的大本营，到底能否改变?

homenhome 发表于 2022-02-09 21:09

关于八孩妈他连写了三篇，每篇都有深度。我转发了其中一篇在朋友圈，没有一个人点赞😂😂

根据大家的意见修改了。另外，这个版本不是给特定机构的，所以可以在论坛（比如Reddit）或者社交媒体上贴，希望能被人权组织或救援组织 pick up

We are seeking help from the international community to save this woman of a human trafficking, sex enslaving, and heinous human rights violation case, out of Xuzhou, China. A woman, who is believed to be Li Ying, was a victim of human trafficking since 12, and has been a sex slave of a man who not only raped her but also had 8 children with her. She is seen in a picture locked up with an industrial chain, covered with a thin layer in winter in a scruffy hut. The horrid fact is, Ying is not the only trafficked sex slave in the village. Evidence shows that there are at least several other women in the same if not worse situation.

Around Jan 29, an internet post drew the attention of the public. A man, Dong Zhimin, is showing off his 8 kids and government subsidy he received on Tik-Tok. People noticed that in the background, there's a woman shackled in a squalid place, a hut with no isolation in winter. Dong claimed his wife, the woman in the picture, is mentally sick. The incident soon raised internet outrage. Is it legal to chain up any individual in captivity? Was she mentally unwell before they were married, in which case the woman can be considered as nonconsensual? And most importantly, how did she end up there?

Two days later, the local government issued a statement saying that Yang Xia (the woman) was a local villager with mental disease, who was married to Dong in 1998. "There was no abduction and she is locked up to keep people safe." said the statement.

Soon, a grassroot volunteer organization discovered that a girl who was abducted on the way to school and claimed missing has undeniably identical features to Xia. The girl named Li Ying was taken in 1996 at the age of 12, and is believed to be a human trafficking victim. Her family is still looking for her. With the look, the year missing, and all other details match, it is widely believed that Xia is Ying.

People who are related to the area or who have obtained information about the village stepped out with more information. The girl was "purchased" by Dong's family from the traffickers, and used by the father and 2 sons sexually, one of which is Dong. Some local officials participated in the raping as well. Xia, obstinate and valorous, fought back with teeth and kicks. In order to make her more "obedient", Dong knocked off her teeth and nipped off the tip of her tongue. One person also said that Xia was drugged to lose her voice.

The local government then issued another statement, saying they have compared with the DNA pool and Xia is not a registered missing person.

By then, Ying's mother has requested a DNA comparison with Xia, which is never granted. Xia is kept in a place no outsiders can approach to get a sample.

More truth swarmed in, stupefying the already gasping public. Villages around Xuzhou have a history of being one of the destinations of human trafficking. In the 80s, during the year 1986 to 1989, there were 40,000 human trafficking victims bought by the villagers as sex slaves. A rough calculation shows, today there are around 20,000 sex slaves in those villages. Human trafficking in Xuzhou has an industrial complex behind it. Unmarried guys can pay around 3,000 to 6,000 Yuan (around $500 to $1,000) to get a girl. The local government then would create a new ID for the girl, and too marriage licenses. The new household then can claim government subsidy. Of course, sex slaves do fight back. They will get beaten up, drugged, or inhumanely tortured as a result. There's another woman "living" next to Xia's, is crawling on the ground in a more grubby hut. Her knees were knocked to pieces from an attempted run-away. Another one is hung to the beam, whacked every other day. Some of them went insane in the living hell. About half of the rescued sex slaves are diagnosed of having mental illness.

Another question also emerged among all. There's a ten-year gap between Xia's 1st son and 2nd son. Xia has 7 boys and 1 girl, youngest 1 year old. The chance of getting such biological probability is thin. People suppose Xia has/had other kids. They could be girls that were "dealt with", following the prevailing gender discrimination across rural areas in China, the same discrimination causing the gender disproportion in China leaving men out number women by 30 million in rural areas, as girls are aborted, drowned after birth, or abandoned during infancy. The surplus group serves as terminal consumers of the human trafficking business. But no one could get a chance to talk to Xia. The village is sealed.

It is palpable by now that the Xuzhou local government has served as a shield in the human trafficking business. On the provincial level, neither Ying's birth place nor Xuzhou's governing province has uttered a sound despite the fuming lambasting from the public.

On Feb 7, the central government semi-officially stated that Xia has been identified. She is a woman of 52, from Yunnan Province, who was taken to treat her mental disease 20 years ago and got missing. She has no living relatives.

The public is giving backlash. Apparently, the numbers don't add up. There's no photographic or witness evidence either.

Till then, Ying's mother's DNA request is still not granted.

To date, Xia is segregated and confined to a mental institution guarded by armed police force for "national security reasons", no volunteer or social worker allowed to visit. The truth is prevented to be found out by the state apparatus.

According to all the information gleaned so far, Xia is not simply a psychotic woman who is mistreated. The whole occurrence is a consortium of crimes on multiple levels with unfathomable magnitudes. Xia was abducted, human trafficked, raped, sexually abused and assaulted, used as a reproductive machine, manhandled, and tortured. She was a prey of the human traffickers, her purchaser family of 3 males, local authorities who participated in raping and giving green light to the business chain, higher up government who makes up a story to deny her identity, and the state government that censors public opinions.

We want to ask a few questions:

- Why isn't a DNA comparison approved?

- Why isn't Xia permitted to talk to anyone outsider?

- Why isn't the local government answering on what base did they issued the press releases that are contradicting each other?

- How many more women like Xia are there in the same village? The same city? The same province?

- What is being done to help them?

In so, we urge the international community to help us volume up. We feel for Xia. Any human being's heart would pain at such hideous crime. She is our daughter, sister, cousin... She was us. Remember, she, a sweet teenage girl much loved and cared for, was on her way to school one day, suddenly blacked out, and woke up in a living hell, with no one there to help. The state apparatus is used to protect perpetrators. The system is failing her.

We invite you to join us, to ask for truth, to ask for justice, and to demand that the Xuzhou government give Li Ying's freedom and life back.

#saveliying #xuzhoumom #girlbestrong

Appendix

• photo comparison of Xia and Ying

• Photo of Xia chained to the hut

• the next door woman crawling on the mud ground

• Ying's uncle's letter

• Volunteer organization Proud Girl's photo evidence

养貂的小昭 发表于 2022-02-09 16:32

大赞mm的努力！ 你觉得加个什么标题比较醒目？我在想如果放在change.org上，一般是希望政府做个什么努力。如果发给联合国，人权组织，也是希望他们做什么

Human trafficking victim, sex salve, mother of 8, needs to be freed from shackle

感谢MM发起petition，发一个link，大家一起签

养貂的小昭 发表于 2022-02-09 22:07

刚发了petition, 谢谢小昭MM！

https://chng.it/zShHBQCm9F

Sign了，要不要单开一个贴，这样会有更多人看到

nyy7 发表于 2022-02-09 23:37

有理，我找个花滑空档 😂