我历史地理都不好,555,所以现在有点糊涂。到底以色列应该的边界在哪里啊?他们算不算侵略了啊?
有人来科普一下么?

以色列以前都是把犹太移民往巴勒斯坦地区送的,后来以色列又把移民撤了出来,便于打击hamas.
再说了,二战结束之前根本没有以色列阿,之后直接空降了个犹太国家到中东,还不算侵略.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Line_(Israel)
Wiki上查出来的,不知道准不准。
为啥犹太人总被赶的满地跑?到处受迫害,罗马帝国啊,希特勒啊都喜欢欺负他们尼?
穆斯林人把自己的妇女当成狗,把自己的儿童训练成人体炸弹,把自己的年迈者做成肉体挡箭牌;以色列在攻击哈马斯军事目标的同时,能不为加沙居民提供人道主义援助吗?你以为犹太人和穆斯林人的世界观相同啊?
唉,历史长的民族,国家都有很多宿怨,中国也有这个问题。还是谁的拳头硬,谁就有饭吃。。。
当年犹太人赶尽杀绝巴勒斯坦的各个小国家,希伯来人得以建立自己的国家,犹太人又给波斯,巴比伦打败,国家灭亡,到罗马时期终于被赶出这个地方。历史上不少国家对犹太人的围剿也是相当的可怕。两千年之后犹太人又回到这个地方,但是经年战争不停。福兮祸兮?
The following links are facts and opinions about the conflict in the region compiled by a very famous Israeli computer scientist (Oded Goldreich):
http://www.wisdom.weizmann.ac.il/~oded/politics.html
http://www.wisdom.weizmann.ac.il/~oded/PS/pi.pdf
The following organization is also Israeli but is against the crimes that Israel has committed:
As for the history of the conflict, one could check the following
http://www.merip.org/palestine-israel_primer/toc-pal-isr-primer.html
Other interesting media:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW1-_JmXQt0&mode=related&search=
Naom Chomsky is also a good reference.
Actually http://www.wisdom.weizmann.ac.il/~oded/PS/pi.pdf is very simple to read and has very important historical fact of the region. Unfortunately, I don't have a book in mind that you can purchase in the US (where publications are strongly controlled by pro-Israeli groups). I also recommend to watch the following movies:
http://www.mediaed.org/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=117
http://www.mediaed.org/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=404
http://www.mediaed.org/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=403
Just for fun, you should also watch this guy bashing a stupid Israel-biased journalist:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wdwk1dp-uU
Aren't the left wing libs incredible? They are way too certain about things that are not certain, they just won't stop their little left wing propaganda machine.
What are the left wing liberals?
They love the Musilim, and they hate the Jews.
They love those fly planes into buildings, and they hate those fight for liberty.
They love Obama and his lying thugs, and they hate President Bush who kept the country safe for 7 years.
They love Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea, and they hate Israel, the United States, the United Kingdoms and South Korea.
They love lesbians and the gay, and they hate people who promote traditional family values.
......
The Left Wing Libs Tax People to Work Hard to Spread Wealth Around to Those Don't Work, Don't Pay Taxes, but Live on Government Checks - As Long As They Vote for the Dems.
Good Luck Guys, Hope You'll Get to Keep Some Change in Your Pocket after "CHANGE: YES WE CAN"
你的屁股思考的逻辑是什么,你要讲道理,不能一出来就骂街。
The Muslim people in Palestine region should go back to their own countries, give up their Jihad, stop killing, stop bombing, stop shooting rockets, stop screwing their own women and children, ... they don't deserve Jerusalem despite how much violence they will use.
The Muslim people will be loved by the world if they stop their violence.
我只是表达我的立场,我的立场很清晰,你们始终在灰色地带找掩护,你们始终没有标明你们的立场。我说的是公认和已经发生的事实,你们说来说去还是左翼媒体那一套。这两个帖子的性质的一样的,是讨论某个具体的国际争端问题,封我的贴是走狗的行径,我也不是非要扯平不可。
我的年龄和我的论点没有关系,但是我肯定比你们年轻。
我曾经也是选择没有立场的立场,自认为很“老道”很“成熟”,但是其实非常sloppy,没立场没主义更没利益。
Too young, too simple, sometimes naive 是句名言,但是你以为自己圆滑一点找几个灰色地带藏一会就更跟江爷爷并称老江湖?人家可是“见得多了,世界那个国家没去过。跟华莱士谈笑风生。”您呢?也就是来这个破论坛装装酷,一言不发隔山观火,关键时刻就变档。牛B吗?
我比你年龄,比你多活几年,说不定我能看到以色列向伊朗放原子弹呢,您看到的机会就比我小了。