以下是引用as_still_water在2008-11-4 20:09:00的发言：
too bad I can not vote, I would vote for no

以下是引用yuanyuanlu在2008-11-5 0:33:00的发言：

your kids might do it anyway whether heterosexual or homosexual

以下是引用vivien0612在2008-11-5 0:42:00的发言：

at least I will tell them not to as a parent. And you will encourage your children.

So yeah, your kids are more likely be ****ed in their shitholes. And I am pretty sure you, as their parent, are proud of them doing that

以下是引用vivien0612在2008-11-5 0:58:00的发言：

what did I disgust you? She started first. And you seemed enjoying it, didn't you?

 

以下是引用vivien0612在2008-11-5 1:06:00的发言：

Ｉam?！ 英文你看不懂是吧？你让她自己说，是谁先说的！我先说的是为了保护孩子，应该反对，因为很恶心，根本没有办法跟孩子解释。然后他就说“your kids" ，直接人身攻击我，你还回他的帖子，在那幸灾乐祸的不得了，你现在反过来是我说的？

以下是引用vivien0612在2008-11-5 1:15:00的发言：

 ＂Ｉwas disgusted because you are talking about which hole the kids should be ****ed＂

这也是你说的。你真懂假懂，这区别也太大了吧。

 

以下是引用flyingkitty在2008-11-5 1:22:00的发言：

To respect the difference of others is the best way to earn respect from others. Your children are going to be exposed to these issues regardless whether prop 8 is passed or not, and you would need to find the best way to explain things to them no matter what. Simply telling them same sex marriage is wrong is not going to help them living in a society that is built on difference.

I cannot vote. If I can, I would vote no on prop 8 and take the responsibility to educate my children myself.

以下是引用vivien0612在2008-11-5 1:42:00的发言：

很多人在这说respect,好像很respect同性恋似的，但是性是婚姻很重要的一部分，也是同性恋最不能被人们接受的原因，为什么一说到同性恋和异性恋最本质的不同，很多人又一副不能接受的样子，难道respect还是有条件的？孩子是天真无邪的，什么都会想要知道，他们又不会自动屏蔽有关性的问题，有一天他们去问老师，或者来问父母，作为父母，怎么去解释？怎么去教育？我请问你们，卖淫嫖娼和乱伦，是个人的自由么？应该被尊重么？

以下是引用凡士林在2008-11-5 2:02:00的发言：
最后那个还是通过了吗？

以下是引用angeliali在2008-11-5 2:05:00的发言：

 

I am glad that it is passed, at least it sends out a message to people what is the right direction that we as human being should go for. I think 乱伦and同性恋 are in the same category, as they are against the biological rule that i have been believing in. As more and more ppl 乱伦 and 同性恋, human being will extinct eventually, although it is very unlikely to happen.

 

If you look at the summary of arguement against prop 8:

 

Equality under the law is a fundamental freedom. Regardless of how we feel about marriage, singling people (if a farther and his daughter are both single, and they want to get married, can you accept that? ) out to be treated differently is wrong (If two things are different, i don't see why we call them the same name). Prop. 8 won't affect our schools, but it will mean loving couples are treated differently under our Constitution and denied equal protection under the law (They can get the same protection as marriage can bring them, i am not against that, but not under the name of marriage).

以下是引用page394在2008-11-5 3:10:00的发言：

I am not familiar with the situation. They do not have a means to legitimate it now, is that right?

I heard many states have civil union, or other forms of legitimate process.

most benefit, at least where I work, would mention spouse/or same gender partner.

And I wonder who put that prince prince story in MA school curriculum. It is not good for gay people image in public.

They face a strong rejection, maybe because they went too far.

以下是引用angeliali在2008-11-5 3:20:00的发言：

Unfortunately, here in the current system, you need to have the majorty vote to make it leagal. This is how it works now. Just like, for ppl who vote for Maccain, they have to accept that Obama is the next president even they are pissed off.

以下是引用page394在2008-11-5 3:33:00的发言：

children from the majority heteromarriage are vulnerable and can not be considered as privileged.

Again, I would think most people would vote no, if not for the MA example.

Observing what's happening when homomarriage is legistated, many parents are not willing to risk their children's education on some school head's hollow promise. They want their voice heard.

A yes may hurt some nice homo couple, and I feel sorry for them. But a no may risk a prince-prince story at school. There's example there. Too much risk.

以下是引用page394在2008-11-5 3:45:00的发言：

give me a logical argument why homo marriage can not be put in family education, if the school mentions dad and mum in a family.

and so far the MA parents haven't been able to come up with that law, right? They got arrested themselves for attesting that education.

So why bother, why go through the risk.

以下是引用vivien0612在2008-11-6 20:34:00的发言：

忍耐无对错，我再忍耐也冤枉不了谁，越忍世界越和平，但是你的投诉是错的，而且你本身有嘲笑他人的行为

以下是引用vivien0612在2008-11-6 20:43:00的发言：

我火气不大啊，就事论事啊，我说的哪句不在理呢？而且我很不明白，说一句话不是好话为什么算是人身攻击，那你现在说我火气大也算人身攻击

以下是引用vivien0612在2008-11-6 20:56:00的发言：

对，但是他刚才又说人家用马夹啦，实际上是看见的啦，控诉之前还威胁人家，你说控诉是自由，那你就去控诉呗，你威胁人家干啥，威胁也称自由了？然后我说几句吧，他又说了，关你啥事，那不是讲自由么，我为啥就不能说了？