今天加沙医院被炸的一瞬间的视频。专家来判断下是否以色列干的

https://twitter.com/Sa91af/status/1714362623414747588?t=HbGN5smlzA2Mt-MOv_SkbQ&s=05

Tiktok知名记者发消息了。是以色列air strike的导弹

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8hQCPKy/

🚨EXPERT ANALYSIS: WHO BOMBED THE AL AHLI BAPTIST HOSPITAL IN GAZA?

Marine Corps Veteran expert analysis of the recent bombing incident at the hospital reveals critical findings:

- Fuel Explosion Duration: The initial explosion likely lasted 0.5-0.75 seconds, emitting light for a brief period. This suggests it is not an incendiary device.

- Parking Lot Damage: The damage in the parking lot is attributed to either overpressure or a fuel explosion. There's minimal debris near the cars.

- Shielding Effect: A surrounding building shielded one side of the parking lot, preventing diesel/gas fires from reaching the vehicles. All windows in nearby buildings shattered due to the primary and fuel explosions.

- Last Video Variation: The final video displays a smaller fuel explosion, and the submunition release is less clear.

CONCLUSION:

- The explosive device likely ranged from 300-600 lbs. Larger bombs would've scattered more debris in the parking lot than on buildings.

- A 700lb+ bomb would've caused more damage to building tops due to shockwaves.

- Most visible damage is attributed to the fuel explosion; the primary explosion likely caused structural damage.

Probable munitions and their possessors:

1. Mk-82/Mk-83 General Purpose Bombs:

- Possessed by: Multiple countries, including the US and NATO members. Versatile, unguided bombs.

2. GBU-39 Small Diameter Bomb (SDB):

- Possessed by: United States and allies. Known for precision strikes.

3. GBU-12 Paveway II Laser-Guided Bomb:

- Possessed by: United States and allies. Converts unguided bombs into precise munitions.

4. AGM-65 Maverick Missile:

- Possessed by: United States and allies. Air-to-surface missile for precision strikes.

Audio Analysis: Based on the video, we can hear what the Hamas missiles and a JDAM missile sound like. Then, we have the audio of the attack on the hospital, and it sounds very similar to a JDAM missile. Hamas does not have the infrastructure and capabilities to fire a JDAM.

These insights offer clarity into the incident, highlighting potential munitions and the militaries that may possess them, and that could have been behind the attacks.

FINAL CONCLUSION:

Based on the evidence, this could not have been the Islamic Jihad, as claimed by the Israeli Defense Force, based on our analysis of the information we have so far.

They do not possess the capabilities for such advanced weaponry.

IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER:

This is an analysis is preliminary, and is done by a Marine Corps Veteran Explosives & Ordinance Expert, and reviewed by many others.

As I've said before, we CANNOT come to final conclusions just yet.

The IDF has denied the above claims, and has stated it shared evidence with US Intelligence, including footage and intercepted conversations, that will prove the Islamic Jihad were behind the bombing of the Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital. This footage and the conversations will also be made public, according to Reuters.

The videos are compiled from various sources and do not represent our opinion in any way.

纠结弹坑的可以了解一下导弹有两种： 一种是碰到目标之后才炸（会在地面造成大的弹坑）。另外一种是是在接近目标的时候空炸，目的是造成最大杀伤力，但是不会造成周围建筑物的大规模损坏）

Missiles can be designed to physically hit their target, or to explode near it. The latter is known as a proximity fuse, and it detonates the warhead at a safe distance from the target to maximize damage. This technique is often used against air and ground targets, as it allows the missile to destroy the target without risking collateral damage to nearby buildings or people.

这个是gaza医院遇袭之前的白天

Gaza另外一处居民区被以色列轰炸的结果，

貌似也没有大弹坑

https://packaged-media.redd.it/2y1igzuxrsub1/pb/m2-res_1280p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1697652000&s=19ea2eeca3f951c917c200d1f9883ace31898336#t=0

其实 以色列很早以前就在2006年

就在巴勒斯坦用过DIME

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dense_inert_metal_explosive

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2006/10/13/israel-accused-of-using-dime-bombs

那个会有二次，三次爆炸。这次爆炸就是一声响。你说的这种引爆弹药库的说法早就被证明是不对的了。

winnieyan 发表于 2023-10-18 16:03

纠结弹坑的可以了解一下导弹有两种：

其中 一种是碰到目标之后才炸（会在地面造成大的弹坑）。

然后

另外一种是是在接近目标的时候空炸，目的是造成最大杀伤力，但是不会造成周围建筑物的大规模损坏）

其实 以色列很早以前就在2006年

就在巴勒斯坦用过DIME

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dense_inert_metal_explosive

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2006/10/13/israel-accused-of-using-dime-bombs

Missiles can be designed to physically hit their target, or to explode near it.

The latter is known as a proximity fuse, and it detonates the warhead at a safe distance from the target to maximize damage. This technique is often used against air and ground targets, as it allows the missile to destroy the target without risking collateral damage to nearby buildings or people.

回复 705楼Kongtiankuohai的帖子

玻璃都震不坏的炸弹， 一下能炸死1000人？ 这个除了中子弹没有别的

犹太人太邪恶了

moonvalley 发表于 2023-10-18 16:17

-哈马斯的武器战力和以色列相比，还在史前社会

这次以色列多半使用的是DIME炸弹。

采用"高密度钝性金属炸药药"（DIME）和碳纤维外壳的GBU-39小直径炸弹(SDB)聚束杀伤型弹药（FLM）进行测试，图片里面可以看到街道上的人形目标全部被摧毁，而街道两侧的房屋依然完好

美国退伍军人，弹药专家Dylan Griffiths说为什么这次炸医院的是以色列

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8htETtD/

这几天加沙民众发现的JDAM的证据

最新证据显示加沙医院被炸之前以色列飞机飞过并施放干扰弹（通常是投弹之后飞离现场时用于迷惑地面防空力量）

A new video shows an Israeli fighter jet flaring before bombing the Gaza Baptist Hospital!

Israel did it.

https://twitter.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1715043209334673593?t=xFK_E8Vy7-d0zroY2zbbEw&s=19

如果只有一个视频拍打那个尖叫的声音，可以说是其他地方的。

我起码看到三个视频，有同样的声音，两个视频拍到飞机丢干扰弹。而且有个视频，拍到了火箭弹发射，哈马斯的火箭弹的发射方向是背向医院的。

我做了个视频，里面也做了简要分析

https://www.ixigua.com/7291401047803691532?logTag=219db51ecffe82505d87

minqidev 发表于 2023-10-19 14:39

现在你可以根据我发的最新视频来更新了呵呵

最新证据显示加沙医院被炸之前以色列飞机飞过并施放干扰弹（通常是投弹之后飞离现场时用于迷惑地面防空力量）

A new video shows an Israeli fighter jet flaring before bombing the Gaza Baptist Hospital!

Israel did it.

https://twitter.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1715043209334673593?t=xFK_E8Vy7-d0zroY2zbbEw&s=19

现在就看主流媒体何时可以跟进 质询以色列军方了。

https://youtu.be/9l-AoS8QHs8?si=GN_VvAg-niCu3m-f

另外一位台湾博主的分析 加沙医院是以色列所炸

终于有一家经过严谨的分析证实了以色列在说谎。以色列说的那个失效的gaza起飞的火箭弹在以色列自己的视频里面被证明是被以色列自己的防御系统成功拦截了的，所以根本不可能落到Gaza 医院炸死人

回复 997楼Cybercat的帖子

以我看俄乌战场的各种视频的丰富经验，这个爆炸当量肯定大于155炮弹，肯定小于500磅航弹，到底是啥不清楚但绝对不可能是什么2000磅航弹空爆。俄军/乌军随便一个自行火炮吃到自杀无人机的动静都比这大多了，都有肉眼可见的冲击波

另外现场的损害除了爆炸还有火灾，是土火箭残余燃料还是现场有弹药或者什么别的东西堆放，不清楚。我还是觉得再让子弹飞一会，不过这么久了，哈马斯这边没有放出什么新的证据，比如弹片之类的，应该是说明了一些问题

Moscow79 发表于 2023-10-20 08:47

火是来自车啊 那个地方趴了十几辆车啊 车上有汽油啊

黑暗不同很好解释，摄像机不一样嘛。一个是监控，一个是职业摄像机。

你的摄像时间对不上，至少得说明吧？哪里出来的，有人认领是他们的吗？摄像机对的地点的经纬度有吗？都没有，凭空而来。你说摄像头的中心是医院就是医院？有第三者验证过吗？

我贴的 al jazeera 的是geoconfirmed, 1：34秒非常清楚完整连续， 时间地点跟al jazeera 电视上的和他们自己发布的视频都是对得上的，没有人会敢去篡改伪造因为在事情发生的时候就实时传出去给公众了。

你举了这么多例子，看了这么多照片，每次都得找新理由自圆其说（弹坑小是小导弹，也许是空爆，也许是DIME, 视频时间不对是时区。。。）这么多视频截图也没法证明 al jazeera 那个是假的。al jazeera 能做到的就是把它剪短了，隐瞒了细节。

我说过以色列那个截获的所谓录音我听都不听，没一点说服力。是同样可能伪造剪辑的。

KISS, 这个摄像就最可能是真象，这么多天了，没人能discredit it. 再仔细看一遍去吧？不是拦截，以色列拦截的视频都是在火箭滑行时拦截的，上升阶段在加沙干嘛拦截，落到哪里都是未知数。

https://twitter.com/GeoConfirmed/status/1714390254935851272

法国说了什么我不管，反正我贴的那个视频简单明洁，有时间地点，没飞机没干扰弹，zoom in 火多大都看得到，没有what if buts 说明不是飞机炸弹，也没见到导弹，很可能不是以色列干的 end of story. 至于是谁干的，没有铁打的证据，没法定论， 所以大家暂时不吱声。有啥新证据再定论。

楼主应该把标题改了。

wanjunli2022 发表于 2023-10-20 14:03

你网上视频还是看少了 网上还是有不少以色列的铁穹系统在哈马斯火箭弹的各个飞行阶段拦截住的视频的

回复 1034楼Dohremi的帖子

这次房子都炸垮了， 才炸死十几个， 医院那次房子就破了点玻璃， 花花草草都是好的， 一下炸死千人， 是不是太魔幻了

moonvalley 发表于 2023-10-20 13:52

都说了 上千难民以为医院很安全，晚上露天睡在医院外面停车场周边的草地上

半岛电视台的分析视频

(992) Was the Gaza hospital attack caused by a failed rocket launch? | Bird’s Eye View - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyNLvL_8SeY&t=206s