丫丫小时候特别乖巧可爱,现在也能看出来很温和。就是一直卑微地乞食,也没有过暴躁地行为,饿得没精神。真是可怜。希望无论如何坚持到4月7日。
但是说实话,我对这个动物园不信任,不相信4月7日他们会真的送丫丫走。丫丫能不能挺过路上长途跋涉也成问题。命苦的娃儿
丫丫小时候特别乖巧可爱,现在也能看出来很温和。就是一直卑微地乞食,也没有过暴躁地行为,饿得没精神。真是可怜。希望无论如何坚持到4月7日。
但是说实话,我对这个动物园不信任,不相信4月7日他们会真的送丫丫走。丫丫能不能挺过路上长途跋涉也成问题。命苦的娃儿
孟非斯动物园不让游客投喂。最近一直有华人网友去看丫丫,要是允许游客给丫丫捐食物,相信一定有很多华人朋友给丫丫捐甘蔗苹果胡萝卜的
怎么才能帮到丫丫呢
kittyrain 发表于 2023-02-27 22:15
没什么好办法,动物保护组织抗议两年了。有网友从很远的地方想捐一车竹子但是孟菲斯动物园不要(没看到后续)。捐款不能指定给熊猫。
前几天华人在纽约时代广场投屏广告登了丫丫的图片,但是估计也没用。媒体对这种话题不感兴趣,尤其现在中美关系不好。
也就只能希望大家多关注,进而引起更多人的关注,也许有说话有点份量的华人明星政客什么的,或者当地华人有点关系的能不能和动物园说说好话,想办法给丫丫多点好点的食物。
网上什么人都有。我在xhs上面说DC和亚特兰大的熊猫还是养的很好的,也是被一堆人骂,说我“死美国佬”,叫我“滚”。
momclub17 发表于 2023-02-27 22:31
双方都有些很极端的人。版上前两天自己人里也有骂圣母的。
有些人任何事都联系到反中反美对抗情绪,都无暇顾及了人的基本朴素的感情了。
但是因为皮肤病吧
大仙大仙 发表于 2023-02-27 22:34
皮肤病是动物园的借口,长期营养不良免疫系统弱会引发皮肤病啊……
我还是很难相信动物园会因为政治取向而虐待动物。。。我们这里pet zoo的一头牛都是当宝贝养着的。。。
我家有一只老猫,最近去世。她大概是得了甲亢+肾病,消化不好,拉稀,几个月lost掉一半的weight。再怎么治疗,都回不到以前的状态。可能YY也是有消化道病+甲亢?
stacych8008 发表于 2023-02-28 13:57
我开始也相信动物园说的是老了,皮肤病遗传什么的,后来看了一段时间丫丫的视频……
丫丫刻板行为转圈乞食一男一女两个饲养员还有一个胖黑大妈(不知道是饲养员还是动物园职工)站在外边聊天看都不看它一眼。有一阵饮水池里的水脏发绿,最近换了干净的。
田纳西一片红
看到丫丫的处境真的很难不想到自己
天天刷到这个真的度日如年
—兔死狐悲物伤其类。虽然咱是人,她算个动物
MiaGoth 发表于 2023-02-28 13:42
确实是这样,我和你同感
现在也不一样了,重大mass shooting的关注度都维持不了两天,死的还都是孩子
nvm 发表于 2023-02-28 13:01
是,现在真的很冷漠,不知道为什么...
能不能再弄一次签名,让这个动物园知道很多人在关注这件事。
phoenix2002 发表于 2023-02-28 13:32
Change上好象有十来万签名,P用没有。动物园油盐不进拿它没办法。
为什么熊猫馆一到晚上黑灯瞎火,那个视频神马都看不见?好像别的馆不是这样的?你晚上看见过吗?
不会还憋着什么坏吧?
MiaGoth 发表于 2023-02-28 14:58
舍不得电费? 晚上根本没人管,有人说下午两点就下班了。
丫丫小时候因为特别漂亮可爱才被选上送来美国的,命真苦。
很多人不敢相信人性会这么恶...
我在小红书上刷到视频,有关心熊猫的华人去找动物园办公室的人询问丫丫是不是4月7日回家,结果办公室的人说不知道具体
Complaint Form Submission:
Memphis Zoo: www.memphiszoo.org/contact-form
Memphis Congress Rep Steven Cohen:https://cohen.house.gov/zip-code-lookup?form=/contact/email
Tennessee Governor’s Office:https://www.tn.gov/governor/contact-us.html
USDA Animal Welfare: https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/ourfocus/animalwelfare/complaint-form
US Fish &Wildlife Services: https://www.fws.gov/duspit/contactus.htm
Dear Sir or Madam,
I am writing to express my dismay of the physical and psychological suffering of pandas YaYa and LeLe at the Memphis Zoo.
I am informed that YaYa and LeLe has been suffering from hunger, incompatible low-quality bamboos, lack of enrichments and excessive caging time, causing them to be underweight and malnourished.
From 2007 to 2012, the zoo has performed 4 artificial inseminations on YaYa which ended with 4 abortions and caused irreversible damage to her body.
YaYa has been tortured by parasite infection for over a decade, causing extreme itching and shedding. Her skin disease started in 2008 and 13 years later it has spread throughout her entire body. This fact is confirmed by Beijing Zoo in 2014 and 2020 yet the Memphis Zoo openly denies. YaYa may also have blood parasite problem but is unable to be confirmed without the zoo’s willingness for honest disclosure.
LeLe is in a slight better condition than YaYa, but he has had dental problems over the years. From the videos, he seems to have difficulty in biting and chewing bamboo. International panda fans have asked the Memphis zoo regarding the detail of LeLe’s dental condition, but Memphis Zoo has not responded to the requests.
The fact that LeLe is older than YaYa yet appear in better condition has raised my doubt on Memphis Zoo and AZA’s claim they’re both perfectly healthy. My doubt was raised even more when Beijing Zoo requested a remote vet diagnosis session but was rejected by Memphis Zoo.
Both pandas appear malnourished compared to other pandas in any given zoo worldwide. The cause might be insufficient bamboo and inadequate quality/type. Memphis Zoo claims that their 11 acres of bamboo farm is a major source of bamboo for BOTH pandas, yet research show that 17 acres bamboo farm may be sustainable for only ONE panda. Confirmed by Toronto Zoo’s 2013 media release, Memphis Zoo’s bamboo were sold to Toronto Zoo and later to the Calgary Zoo spanning at least 3 years. This no doubt caused shortage, since in 2016, Memphis Zoo asked for bamboo donation from locals to support YaYa, LeLe and Calgary zoo.
During the pandemic, Memphis Zoo has temporarily paused exhibitions. Through the 24-hr panda cam, fans found YaYa and LeLe locked in the den for up to 18 hours a day. This caused serious mental distress as pandas need big spaces. (e.g. Netherlands Zoo constructed 36000 sq.ft of space for their 2 pandas to roam freely and at will) YaYa and LeLe are showing serious stereotypical behavior INCLUDING SELF-ABUSE from excessive caging that could cause appetite loss. This is very dangerous considering pandas already have a poor rate of conversion from bamboo.
Furthermore, all animals in the world needs enrichment in environment and diet. YaYa and LeLe rarely receive any othersupplements than bamboo (e.g. carrots, pumpkins, corn, wheat etc) This creates imbalance in nutrients on top of the already insufficient bamboo.
Due to Covid19, I have given the Memphis Zoo benefit of the doubt, as the Zoo has claimed financial hardship that led to gran-seeking, fundraising and local donor programs. But, according to panda fans who investigated their 2019 IRS return, there is 7.3 million in publicly traded securities, 7.1 million in salaries and only 3.5 million for animal cost. An outsider one might not know the whole story, but from the investments made, the zoo doesn’t seem to be in extreme hardship that justifies their continuous mistreatment of the pandas. The FREEDOM to roam in open spaces at will and occasional supplements doesn’t cost a leg; and I believe the actions of the Memphis Zoo borderlines violation of the Animal Welfare Act.
I sincerely ask you to investigate and communicate with the Memphis Zoo. If the bamboo supply, amount of professional vet and financial capability are indeed not guaranteed due to Covid19, then please send YaYa and LeLe back to their hometown in China where they get the scientifically correct treatment that senior pandas need.
这是21年panda voice 的抗议信模版。可怜乐乐当时还活着,健康状况甚至比丫丫好。如今乐乐已不在了。大家诉求很简单,给它们吃饱,如果竹子不够给点辅食胡萝卜南瓜苹果,实在不行送回中国...
专家不至于这么没见过世面。专家也没法,上面让他们怎样只能怎样
MiaGoth 发表于 2023-02-28 16:46
除非全部专家都无人性,我相信至少大部分专家还是正常人,肯定也有不得已的考虑和无奈,也怕离开后丫丫遭到报复。
其实从通造的春秋笔法,写专家对丫丫的医疗和喂养提出了要求… “要求“说明专家是对孟菲斯动物园不满意的。
但是现在“人质“在对方手中,态度过于强硬又怕对方撕票。不太好弄
熊猫平均寿命20-25岁。丫丫2000年出生,今年23岁,在熊猫界已经是92以上的高龄了。而且国内派来了专家给丫丫看病,已经说了除了掉毛没有其他疾病。90多了还不让秃啦?其他层主说的状态很好的福宝2020年出生的,才3岁。拿个婴儿/青年和老太太比,那是不一样。一天到晚说看着熊猫就要哭要掉眼泪,那如果熊猫真受虐待,还能活到92岁这个熊猫真的基因不错。而且这20年间受虐待的时候也没见着咱们人抱着照片视频哭。能不能客观点不被营销号带节奏。
dltmddyd 发表于 2023-02-28 16:47
圈养大熊猫比野生熊猫寿命长,最高38岁。23岁的丫丫相当于人的70岁左右。
你可以去看一下其他动物园20多岁熊猫的状况,或者自己在pandacam 观察一段时间。
美国网友受过教育,没那么容易被带节奏。乐乐丫丫的问题不是外表难看,而是被neglect,缺少食物,照顾和互动, 导致刻板行为,乞食,肮脏水源等各种问题。
不是说一个老人,反正快死了,就让她慢慢饿死好了……
还有最近关注的人多,话题度也高,并不是因为什么带节奏,是因为乐乐这个月死了!加上专家团来,大家心疼丫丫希望她能挺到回国
看到一个评论说这些熊猫明面上是文化交流租给国外的,其实是提供给研究的,一直会接受电击和抽血。所以中国也没有把事情闹大,一直很沉默。这个就无从验证了,也没法验证。
Unnijennifer 发表于 2023-02-28 17:09
中动协肯定有猫腻
今日update:
3/4 纽约时代广场晚8:14-8:17又有姐妹买了投屏广告为丫丫投屏。这次的主题是呼吁给丫丫好吃好喝。
另外change.org 为丫丫发声的签名已经有13万多了,应该很快就能达到15万的目标。
Memphis 动物园的网页有实时panda cam
https://www.memphiszoo.org/live-animal-cams
在小红书上看到说一个小姐姐和饲养员说好话给了饲养员一些好处给丫丫争取到了几块苹果和小饼干。不知是真是假,希望是真的就好了。
好像是皮肤病!
bilibiniu 发表于 2023-03-01 03:00
孟菲斯动物园的兽医在釆访里讲丫丫完全没有展现出很痒或很不舒服的迹象。事实上丫丫毛掉了一片片的,用爪子不停的抠痒(指甲长得吓人)
万年潜水,这次浮上来回答一下这个。
你看到的视频是2016年前后的了。而且两人的对话中,其中一个说“每天这个时间,我们去冷库去竹子给,放两捆给他们吃...大概是7--10公斤....”
成年熊猫每天要吃15--30公斤的竹子,这是吃掉的。如果算上损耗的话,比如像花花那种榨汁机,只吃笋尖尖的,就远远不止15--30公斤了。
显而易见,孟菲斯至少在2016年左右开始,给丫丫乐乐的竹子就是不够的。
视频中,没有看到竹笋。curator给准备了一点点葡萄。
lei.doris 发表于 2023-03-01 01:51
要不是引用还看不见。
用脚想一下,谁会在自己家门口贴自己打孩子的照片吗?简直了...那人为了洗地也是拼了
今天天气不错,现在丫丫坐在室外水池边吃竹子。今天的竹子看起来不错,绿的。水看着也还干净。丫丫很乖吃得很认真,精神还可以。
越多人关注,去动物园看丫丫,有人监督,还是有用的。一两个星期前大使馆派人去看丫丫,丫丫的猫舍被打扫干净,换了水,竹子也肉眼可见的好一些了。