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1979年的时候国内有把死刑犯游街的事情么?

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Was there any political killing in 1979? I would believe it if it was during the culture revolution, but in 1979 I don't think so.


 


I do remember those posters printed in bold black letters hanging aound to announce the verdicts to the crimials tho. Becuase it usually came with photos that's why i was so impressed.

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以下是引用SHLVR在2009-1-30 10:16:00的发言:

虽然我没有看过, 但是如果有不会惊讶。 这个是自古以来的传统。 文革的时候这种事还是满多的, 1979年was only a couple years after the Cultural Revolution was over. And also I remember even in early 80s there was something called "yan2da3" when many were prosecuted due to minor crimes and remembered people were telling me about this type of 公审大会。


That's not exactly the point. The point is she's talking about political killings in 1979 here. I heard Yan Da also, even tho I also agree that it was way to harsh but it's not politial killings.

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以下是引用米虫在2009-1-30 10:20:00的发言:

如果真的只犯了这么点,真的冤。。。不过么, 我偏向于不只犯这么点


Read a thread somewhere earlier says that the mayer's son of shanghai was also executed during yan da because of 流氓罪. There was rumers that the once famous actress Gong xue had also got involved.

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以下是引用SHLVR在2009-1-30 10:24:00的发言:

Ok. I get your point. Wasn't there a term called "反革命犯" before? When was it abandoned? I believe it was definitely after 1979.


how could I know?

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以下是引用SHLVR在2009-1-30 10:32:00的发言:

No wonder she left China in a hurry.


The movie actor Chi Zhi Qiang was another famous case during that period, although he wasn't sentenced to death. Rumors had it that he offended the daughter of a general in Nanjing Jun Qu when they were dating.


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She delivered a formal announcement to deny when the rumors were circulating in shanghai then. I dont know if it was the reason she left china, many actresses did the same thing at that time anyway.


 


In an interview with chi zhi qiang I read earlier, he did get involved with a general's daughter but they were in a pretty good relationship when he was arrested.

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以下是引用rachmany在2009-1-30 10:44:00的发言:

严打那时候是错判错杀了不少
量刑都是往重里去的
你说的这个案子,牵涉的演员是姜黎黎(好象)


龚雪也被流氓过? 不知道诶


I was shocked too. She was one of my mon's fav.

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以下是引用苜蓿紫在2009-1-30 10:46:00的发言:
死刑犯游街这回事,以前么,也不是中国独有的。这个女人她想干嘛?

To please some ppl by saying whatever they want to hear.

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以下是引用SHLVR在2009-1-30 11:44:00的发言:

I don't think it's big deal, as long as they are telling the truth. Doesn't matter who said it.


could you provide any solid evidence shows that there were political killings in 1979 and they were conducted the way she described? and don't forget, she said she witnessed the scene several times when she was 5, 6 year old.


 


If those were not POLITICAL KILLINGS, what she said here was just a lie.

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Most of those ppl they don't CREATE something from nothing but they intentionlly present it in an extraggerate, misleading way, which I think is even worse.

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以下是引用SHLVR在2009-1-30 13:05:00的发言:

I don't have any solid evidence from my personal experience, but this is what I found from googling-


 


By reading the case you posted, I didn't see there's anything to do with POLITICS. It is a 贪污案, ok?


 


I also said don't you forget she mentioned she witnessed SEVERAL POLITICAL KILLINGS during an at most 2-year period. Do you really believe it is the case?


 


Sorry, although I appreciate you've spend your time to do the research but I wasn't convinced at all.

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以下是引用SHLVR在2009-1-30 13:29:00的发言:

http://news.sina.com.cn/cul/2005-04-12/5665.html


 


Here is another one. Pretty scary to read. I feel sick after reading these so I'm going to stop here.


 


Whether she saw or not I don't know. But I believe there is such a thing as political killings.


 


 


First of all, I never tried to deny the fact that public political killing did happen in china before. What I'm questioning is weather it still existed after culture revolution, say, in 1979 for instance. Even it did exist at that time, if they were such a widely adopted practice as she described here.


 


If either one of them wasn't true, then she's lying. That is my whole point.


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以下是引用ybzh在2009-1-30 13:47:00的发言:

You sound like a Chinese government official I know...no offense but you are really wasting your talent and also passion here in the US if you are working for a US employer...

And now you are trying to teach me how to live my life. That sounds more like chinese communist back in 50' and 60' to me. [em55]

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以下是引用ConnieBear在2009-1-30 14:13:00的发言:

虽然没有读这个书,不过呢,如果国家真的不好说说也没什么吧。


比如,一个朝鲜的说吃不饱,村里面饿死几家人,这个不能说是他不爱国吧!


Yes, I agree with you...as long as they tell the truth.


 


But apprently, it's not the case here.

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以下是引用ybzh在2009-1-30 14:21:00的发言:

I was just admiring your "talent" and making a comment...that's all...it's your choice as to how to live your life or whatever you want to say...by the way, I didn't know you are this old...I've no idea what Chinese communists sounded like back in the 50s and 60s...

I'm just making a comment too.


 


What makes you think only you're titled the right making comments to others? perhaps you learned this from those government officers you acquainted with? [em226]


 

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以下是引用ybzh在2009-1-30 14:32:00的发言:

Did I ever say that I am the only one entitled to make comments here...come on, go back to school and learn some basic debating skills...it's not fun any more...图片点击可在新窗口打开查看

are you making comments again or advice here?


 


I'm just wondering....


 


sorry you are so upset, actually I'm kinda having fun here.  

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以下是引用synchronization在2009-1-30 14:51:00的发言:

 


qie~~跟chinese goverment个喉舌一样就不行了?非得跟美国政府的喉舌一样才表示自己是“正直”,有“良知”的人?


 


我常常奇怪很多在美国的中国人,为了表明自己不是被中共“洗脑”,一定要更极力的跟中国政府的说法划清界限才好,。


 


有句古文是大概意思是“内举不避亲,外举不避仇”,关键是说得有道理就可以,何必管她说的是跟中国政府一样还是跟美国政府一样?难道跟中国政府一样说法,就表明是错误的了?这样想倒是真没有脑子了。。。


The logic has been used way too many times just on this site forum along. ( if you happened agree with the chinese govt. at some point, then you why are you still staying in U.S?).


 


Please be more creative ppl!![em85]

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以下是引用ybzh在2009-1-30 15:10:00的发言:

怎么一下子拔得这么高了,而且还给众多驻美华人label了好几下,好一个革命小将啊!

好一个革命小将啊


 


You did a much better job when it comes to labeling others. Don't be shy to admit it.


 


 

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以下是引用ilovebluedkk在2009-1-30 15:13:00的发言:

不是说当美国来以后信教的大部分都是党员嘛,有些人天性就是和当地组织靠拢,不管那组织是啥


I doubt this too.

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以下是引用debbiepeng在2009-1-30 15:15:00的发言:

现在国内骂gcd的也很多,国内的弱势群体很多求诉无门,你也听不到他们的呼声。你说的后面那一段我不敢苟同。

what she mentioned here is about the chinese american community.

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以下是引用ybzh在2009-1-30 15:25:00的发言:

我是革命老将。。。and I am proud to admit it...图片点击可在新窗口打开查看

I was not referring you..


 


I just quoted your words. [em234]

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