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很多华人为什么不希望Obma当选?

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以下是引用towania在2008-9-10 14:21:00的发言:

随口说几句。我们虽然是纳税人,但美国大部分的税收是来自那些极富的一群人,而不是我们这些中产阶级。布什上台后的减税政策虽然我们也受小部分利益,但最受益的是那群大富翁们。他的政策现在只是临时的,如果麦肯上台,如果还继续这个政策,那就是permanent了。美国的公共设施,medicare 对穷人老人的保障都需要钱。奥巴马说了他要终止布什给那些包括在自己在内的百万富翁的tax cut 。像咱们一般老百姓影响不大。

损人利己还可以忍受,损人不利己是万万不可。o的那些税务方面的政策就属于损人不利己的。
另外我不关心巨富交多少税。我只关心我自己交的税[em63]
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以下是引用greenflower在2008-9-10 16:09:00的发言:

你觉得打仗这几年每个月的10billion没有你得份么?
税都是要交的
共和党说他们减税,民主党也说减税
我原来觉得共和党减税的 后来发现根本没人实际的说出来老小布什的确给老百姓减税了
小布什这几年你觉得你的税减了么
我来觉得大师会给250k下收入的减税,后来觉得也不靠铺
其实中产阶级的税是不会变多少的
来来回回的都是要交这么多
政治家搞竞选 就是忽悠人 减税啥啥的没什么credit
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i've  given you the link to a table but you refused to read. [em62]
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以下是引用灵小溪在2008-9-10 19:35:00的发言:
我唯一不明白,为什么这么多白人支持奥,包括肯尼迪家族?

没爬楼,直接跳

因为肯尼迪被刺杀前,要立一个发,就是后来的the Civil Rights Act of 1964. 这法基本来说就是要给黑人平等权利的。
结果呢,法律没过,肯尼迪被刺杀了。后来Lyndon Johnson给立了。但是这个让肯尼迪家族觉得是他们的legacy,家族要维护这个legacy,不能让Lyndon Johnson抢了功。所以这次为了显示自己家族的一贯性,坚决支持大师。而克林顿家族,由于一次不小心跑了火车说是lyndon johnson立德那个法,把肯尼迪得罪了。酱紫。
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以下是引用龙小猫在2008-9-11 11:58:00的发言:

这是谁写的啊
里根执政八年间的丰功伟绩怎么一点都不提

well, he was the cold war hero that was completely against China's interest. Why on earth would a Chinese media write anything to praise Reagen? :)
Don't take foreign reports seriously and the rule applies to all countries =)
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the fundamental flaw of those economics analysis is that it ignored economic cycles as well as the power of congress and the supreme court.
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以下是引用greenflower在2008-9-11 14:02:00的发言:

现在高院是共和党的
国会制民主党的
最好选个中间派的总统,independent party图片点击可在新窗口打开查看

me, me! I'm from the best school and I'm a minority. Caffeine for President! [em63]
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以下是引用angeliali在2008-9-11 14:09:00的发言:
就算计算出来民主党更善于搞经济,但不等于obama更善于搞经济。反对他的,不见得是反对民主党一贯的理念,更多的是不信任他。我支持麦肯也有很大的原因是他的主张更接近民主党右派。

Obama should have been eliminated in the resume review process. He shouldn't have got an interview [em63]
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以下是引用angeliali在2008-9-11 14:15:00的发言:
If you go tan your skin, then i will vote for you.

if that's the condition, I won't run then [em62]
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以下是引用tobeornottobe在2008-9-11 14:19:00的发言:

统计上讲,的确是民主党总统经济搞得好。 但是对每个总统来说, 近代经济搞得最差的是民主党的卡特, 搞得最好的是民主党克林顿, 生活在小克世代当然不错,可是赶上卡特,就倒霉了。 不知道会不会有人真的看这张表格投票。

Bill Clinton pumped up the economy by creating two bubbles: the tech bubble and the housing bubble. that alone will prove that the statistics is fundamentally flawed.
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以下是引用angeliali在2008-9-11 14:19:00的发言:

that is the factor that weighs most.

i Know [em54]
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以下是引用yuanyuanlu在2008-9-11 16:21:00的发言:

It is time series data,  so accounts for economic cycles. Economic cycle presents for both parties, right?

And your statement of lagged effect is also counted (Clinton created tech & housing bubbles...)

From what I read, I don't think it is the case......
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以下是引用yuanyuanlu在2008-9-11 20:26:00的发言:

The fact is, Democratic presidents have consistently higher economic growth and consistently lower unemployment than Republican presidents. If you add in a time lag, you get the same result. If you eliminate the best and worst presidents, you get the same result. If you take a look at other economic indicators, you get the same result. There's just no way around it: Democratic administrations are better for the economy than Republican administrations.


show me your model. Let me see where the adjustments are. Otherwise I don't believe it.

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以下是引用yuanyuanlu在2008-9-11 21:17:00的发言:

I already showed you hard data, it depends on you to believe it or not.


BTWI: this is meta-analysis


BTWII, your argument is rather weak to make here. Nothing personal.


[此贴子已经被作者于2008-9-11 21:17:35编辑过]

you showed me the result. you didn't show me the process or the model. am i correct?

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以下是引用yuanyuanlu在2008-9-11 16:21:00的发言:

It is time series data,  so accounts for economic cycles. Economic cycle presents for both parties, right?


And your statement of lagged effect is also counted (Clinton created tech & housing bubbles...)


okay, let me ask you in a diffent way. for instance, how was the housing bubble effect adjusted in the model? by how much and by what factors?

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以下是引用yuanyuanlu在2008-9-11 21:25:00的发言:

咖啡因mm,这个是meta-analysis, as I said many times. Pls do homework on what meta-analysis is.


thanks:)


wiki:


A weakness of the method is that sources of bias are not controlled by the method. A good meta-analysis of badly designed studies will still result in bad statistics. Robert Slavin has argued that only methodologically sound studies should be included in a meta-analysis, a practice he calls 'best evidence meta-analysis'. Other meta-analysts would include weaker studies, and add a study-level predictor variable that reflects the methodological quality of the studies to examine the effect of study quality on the effect size. Another weakness of the method is the heavy reliance on published studies, which may increase the effect as it is very hard to publish studies that show no significant results. This publication bias or "file-drawer effect" (where non-significant studies end up in the desk drawer instead of in the public domain) should be seriously considered when interpreting the outcomes of a meta-analysis. Because of the risk of publication bias, many meta-analyses now include a "failsafe N" statistic that calculates the number of studies with null results that would need to be added to the meta-analysis in order for an effect to no longer be reliable.

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以下是引用yuanyuanlu在2008-9-11 21:37:00的发言:

 


everything has two folds. Can you show me a meta-analysis study that favors Republican then?


i truly believe that the analysis (the underlying studies, not meta-analysis itself) is flawed. GIGO - garbage in, garbage out.

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I simply don't think that its a fair comparison, my friend.
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