周六愉快，看看泰剧，精神一下

哈哈哈哈

周六愉快，看看泰剧，精神一下

哈哈哈哈

outpost 发表于 2021-08-28 14:15

有好看的吗？

有好看的吗？

ivyparker 发表于 2021-08-28 15:00

我都看最俗最drama的lakorn，基本上就是没道德毁三观，哈哈哈

有点像以前台湾的8点档，互扇耳光那种的。哈哈哈

我都看最俗最drama的lakorn，基本上就是没道德毁三观，哈哈哈

有点像以前台湾的8点档，互扇耳光那种的。哈哈哈

outpost 发表于 2021-08-28 15:21

。。。不愧是你😂😂😂

。。。不愧是你😂😂😂

ivyparker 发表于 2021-08-28 15:36

做搬砖背景挺好的，时不时一顿嚎叫，一顿啪啪啪扇耳光。哈哈哈

做搬砖背景挺好的，时不时一顿嚎叫，一顿啪啪啪扇耳光。哈哈哈

outpost 发表于 2021-08-28 17:25

哈哈哈哈哈，懂了，提神醒脑。

ivyparker 发表于 2021-08-28 16:13

这是发在哪里的文章？竟然能存活？

这是发在哪里的文章？竟然能存活？

vickilee 发表于 2021-08-28 22:01

端传媒。总部刚从香港搬到新加坡。这几乎是硕果仅存的还在做深度报道的中文媒体了。

这篇关于豆瓣的报道很快被下架了，不知道为什么。

端传媒。总部刚从香港搬到新加坡。这几乎是硕果仅存的还在做深度报道的中文媒体了。

这篇关于豆瓣的报道很快被下架了，不知道为什么。

ivyparker 发表于 2021-08-28 22:50

新加坡，怪不得能存活

新加坡，怪不得能存活

vickilee 发表于 2021-08-28 23:01

嗯，端传媒态度其实蛮中立的。但它报道整个大中华区的新闻，肯定是有太多上面不想看到的敏感内容。

关于中国的新闻，纽约时报这种我也看不下去，立场先行。

今日读书金句

"

Therefore, a prince must be very careful never to let anything fall from his lips that is not imbued with

the five qualities mentioned above; to those seeing and hearing him, he should appear to be all mercy,

all faithfulness, all integrity, all humanity, and all religion. And there is nothing more necessary than to

seem to possess this last quality. Men in general judge more by their eyes than their hands: everyone

can see, but few can feel. Everyone sees what you seem to be, few touch upon what you are, and those

few do not dare to contradict the opinion of the many who have the majesty of the state to defend

them. In the actions of all men, and especially of princes, where there is no tribunal to which to appeal,

one must consider the final result. Therefore, let a prince conquer and maintain the state, and his

methods will always be judged honorable and praised by all. For ordinary people are always taken in by

appearances and by the outcome of an event. And in the world there are only ordinary people; and the

few have no place, while the many have a spot on which to lean. A certain prince of the present times,

whom it is best not to name, preaches nothing but peace and faith, and to both one and the other he is

extremely hostile. If he had observed both peace and faith, he would have had either his reputation or

his state taken away from him many times over. "

― Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince

居然有这么深层次的监管...

不过现代媒体的确有这个困境，质量和市场难以两全。

网络给了每个人说话和被听见的权利，但是很多人的确没有尽到为自己说的话负责的义务。其实每个人自己就是营销号，说出会影响别人的话前最好都三思。如果都能做到这点，也无须网络管理员了。当然意识形态高于一切的地方是另外一个故事了。

嗯，端传媒态度其实蛮中立的。但它报道整个大中华区的新闻，肯定是有太多上面不想看到的敏感内容。

关于中国的新闻，纽约时报这种我也看不下去，立场先行。

ivyparker 发表于 2021-08-28 23:09

NYT一些关于政治和社会问题的文章很多我都看不下去。

今日读书金句

"

Therefore, a prince must be very careful never to let anything fall from his lips that is not imbued with

the five qualities mentioned above; to those seeing and hearing him, he should appear to be all mercy,

all faithfulness, all integrity, all humanity, and all religion. And there is nothing more necessary than to

seem to possess this last quality. Men in general judge more by their eyes than their hands: everyone

can see, but few can feel. Everyone sees what you seem to be, few touch upon what you are, and those

few do not dare to contradict the opinion of the many who have the majesty of the state to defend

them. In the actions of all men, and especially of princes, where there is no tribunal to which to appeal,

one must consider the final result. Therefore, let a prince conquer and maintain the state, and his

methods will always be judged honorable and praised by all. For ordinary people are always taken in by

appearances and by the outcome of an event. And in the world there are only ordinary people; and the

few have no place, while the many have a spot on which to lean. A certain prince of the present times,

whom it is best not to name, preaches nothing but peace and faith, and to both one and the other he is

extremely hostile. If he had observed both peace and faith, he would have had either his reputation or

his state taken away from him many times over. "

― Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince

foreverisnever 发表于 2021-08-29 17:48

小马哥，西方的商鞅。

NYT一些关于政治和社会问题的文章很多我都看不下去。

foreverisnever 发表于 2021-08-29 18:30

西方媒体里面真的不知道看什么了，路透社中立，但关于亚洲地区的新闻报道比较滞后，质量也不高。

今天的海

西方媒体里面真的不知道看什么了，路透社中立，但关于亚洲地区的新闻报道比较滞后，质量也不高。

ivyparker 发表于 2021-08-29 19:13

西方媒体对非同类社会形态的报道都一般。主流媒体评论也有些高姿态。

近几年有一些小众媒体很有新意，我觉得你可以试着加入Quillette 写一些评论，过几年可以成为大佬了哈哈哈

今天的海

ivyparker 发表于 2021-08-29 19:56

令人敬畏的美！

西方媒体对非同类社会形态的报道都一般。主流媒体评论也有些高姿态。

近几年有一些小众媒体很有新意，我觉得你可以试着加入Quillette 写一些评论，过几年可以成为大佬了哈哈哈

foreverisnever 发表于 2021-08-29 20:15

谢谢推荐。看了下觉得和aeon有点像，不过aeon更偏文化艺术类。中文网络中同形态是matters，那是端传媒前主编建的。

我觉得这种新媒体的问题是无法cover重大的即时社会新闻。那种报道一般需要长时间的跟踪和信息渠道。背后没有机构的资助和关系网很难开展。