Bombshell Salk Institute Scientific Paper Reveals COVID Spike Protein Is Causing Deadly Blood Clots…In the COVID Vaccines By Design To Kill Humans By Injecting Them With the Substance That Kills Them!
重磅炸弹索尔克研究所的科学论文揭示了COVID 刺突蛋白正在导致致命的血块……在COVID疫苗中，其设计旨在通过向人类注射会杀死他们的物质来杀死人类！
--------真的吗？？？？？？？
发帖看贴 发表于 2021-05-17 02:14
这没办法
正好s protein担当了多项作用
Salk的论文没得出那样的结论。是这个媒体自己的评论。在体外做的机理实验，用的剂量并不一定是临床相关的剂量。疫苗的临床结果已经在哪儿了，血栓的副作用的概率也摆在那儿。但这篇新闻断定疫苗因为用了s蛋白，所以S蛋白引起的那些作用人人都会有。这不是耸人听闻吗？一个反疫苗组织带有先定偏见的谁信谁傻。
因为没有什么主流媒体报导，所以只好转发Z3的。重点在Salk Institute的报告。
重点不是z3News啊... 是Salk Institute的研究报告。如果主流媒体愿意登，我肯定会转发主流媒体的。直接否定我真怀疑你有没有看。
Xiaotianda 发表于 2021-05-17 02:04
The upshot of this research is that covid vaccines are inducing vascular disease and directly causing injuries and deaths stemming to blood clots and other vascular reactions. This is all caused by the spike protein that’s deliberately engineered into the vaccines.
这项研究的结果是，covid疫苗正在诱发血管疾病，并直接导致由血块和其他血管反应引起的伤害和死亡。这都是由故意将这种刺突蛋白加工到疫苗中引起的。
<<<<<<---------------------Z3是反疫苗的？
If you don’t have these pathogens evolving in response to vaccines, then we really don’t understand natural selection.
In a 2015 paper in PLOS Biology, Read and his colleagues vaccinated 100 chickens, leaving 100 others unvaccinated. They then infected all the birds with strains of Marek’s that varied in how virulent — as in how dangerous and infectious — they were. The team found that, over the course of their lives, the unvaccinated birds shed far more of the least virulent strains into the environment, whereas the vaccinated birds shed far more of the most virulent strains. The findings suggest that the Marek’s vaccine encourages more dangerous viruses to proliferate. This increased virulence might then give the viruses the means to overcome birds’ vaccine-primed immune responses and sicken vaccinated flocks.
所以超过一定数量的人打这种不能灭掉病毒的疫苗的后果就是病毒越来越厉害 不要想群免了 根本不可能的
Most of the vaccines we get in childhood prevent pathogens from replicating inside us and thereby also prevent us from transmitting the infections to others. But scientists have so far been unable to make these kinds of sterilizing vaccines for complicated pathogens like HIV, anthrax and malaria. To conquer these diseases, some researchers have been developing immunizations that prevent disease without actually preventing infections — what are called “leaky” vaccines.
新冠疫苗也是leaky vaccines的一种
edit：有人要看原文 在这里 https://www.quantamagazine.org/how-vaccines-can-drive-pathogens-to-evolve-20180510/
The problem with leaky vaccines, Read says, is that they enable pathogens to replicate unchecked while also protecting hosts from illness and death, thereby removing the costs associated with increased virulence. Over time, then, in a world of leaky vaccinations, a pathogen might evolve to become deadlier to unvaccinated hosts because it can reap the benefits of virulence without the costs — much as Marek’s disease has slowly become more lethal to unvaccinated chickens. This virulence can also cause the vaccine to start failing by causing illness in vaccinated hosts.
其实高分子生物学的数学模型基础，是量子力学、量子场论。
在量子力学里，万事皆有可能。不讲定量的概率，就是耍流氓。
否则的话，甩出单个光子引起连锁反应而毁灭掉整个宇宙，量子力学上也不是没有可能是吧。
只是我们目前人类的 cloud computing 计算力，无法有效求解该实际问题的量子场论方程。因为数据相关性导致无法在 cloud 上有效并行计算。
所以，我个人理解，目前阶段的分子生物学，做不到物理学和计算科学那样的 mathematical science。这样的话，没有实验数据支持的纯理论讨论，不谈概率的话，我觉得跟 TVB 差不多，有这点时间不如去看何以笙箫默。
个人看法。
If you don’t have these pathogens evolving in response to vaccines, then we really don’t understand natural selection.
In a 2015 paper in PLOS Biology, Read and his colleagues vaccinated 100 chickens, leaving 100 others unvaccinated. They then infected all the birds with strains of Marek’s that varied in how virulent — as in how dangerous and infectious — they were. The team found that, over the course of their lives, the unvaccinated birds shed far more of the least virulent strains into the environment, whereas the vaccinated birds shed far more of the most virulent strains. The findings suggest that the Marek’s vaccine encourages more dangerous viruses to proliferate. This increased virulence might then give the viruses the means to overcome birds’ vaccine-primed immune responses and sicken vaccinated flocks.
所以超过一定数量的人打这种不能灭掉病毒的疫苗的后果就是病毒越来越厉害 不要想群免了 根本不可能的
CleverBeaver 发表于 2021-05-17 02:26
Equilibrium 这个词了解一下？
If you don’t have these pathogens evolving in response to vaccines, then we really don’t understand natural selection.
In a 2015 paper in PLOS Biology, Read and his colleagues vaccinated 100 chickens, leaving 100 others unvaccinated. They then infected all the birds with strains of Marek’s that varied in how virulent — as in how dangerous and infectious — they were. The team found that, over the course of their lives, the unvaccinated birds shed far more of the least virulent strains into the environment, whereas the vaccinated birds shed far more of the most virulent strains. The findings suggest that the Marek’s vaccine encourages more dangerous viruses to proliferate. This increased virulence might then give the viruses the means to overcome birds’ vaccine-primed immune responses and sicken vaccinated flocks.
所以超过一定数量的人打这种不能灭掉病毒的疫苗的后果就是病毒越来越厉害 不要想群免了 根本不可能的
Most of the vaccines we get in childhood prevent pathogens from replicating inside us and thereby also prevent us from transmitting the infections to others. But scientists have so far been unable to make these kinds of sterilizing vaccines for complicated pathogens like HIV, anthrax and malaria. To conquer these diseases, some researchers have been developing immunizations that prevent disease without actually preventing infections — what are called “leaky” vaccines.
新冠疫苗也是leaky vaccines的一种
CleverBeaver 发表于 2021-05-17 02:26
或许更简单一点，人类消灭蚊子了吧。
那人类不能消灭蚊子的话，是不是干脆就不管蚊子传播疾病传播害了？
Equilibrium 这个词了解一下？
tidewater 发表于 2021-05-17 02:37
呃 不要乱丢名词好伐
明显木有达到平衡 不然说好的新冠变异慢呢？怎么突然变种层出不穷呢
其实高分子生物学的数学模型基础，是量子力学、量子场论。
在量子力学里，万事皆有可能。不讲定量的概率，就是耍流氓。
否则的话，甩出单个光子引起连锁反应而毁灭掉整个宇宙，量子力学上也不是没有可能是吧。
只是我们目前人类的 cloud computing 计算力，无法有效求解该实际问题的量子场论方程。因为数据相关性导致无法在 cloud 上有效并行计算。
所以，我个人理解，目前阶段的分子生物学，做不到物理学和计算科学那样的 mathematical science。这样的话，没有实验数据支持的纯理论讨论，不谈概率的话，我觉得跟 TVB 差不多，有这点时间不如去看何以笙箫默。
个人看法。
tidewater 发表于 2021-05-17 02:30
如果做好准备再怎么搞也是死 我同意 不如都去看脑残剧
要转就转全。Imperfect Vaccination Can Enhance the Transmission of Highly Virulent Pathogens。就是因为一大堆不打疫苗的。达不到群免，不能完全阻断病毒transmission,才会养蛊更厉害的病毒。
Rutang48 发表于 2021-05-17 02:40
新冠疫苗不能阻断传播 这是众人皆知的呀 和有人不打无关
就是全打了 也是继续在人群里传来传去 只是重症率低一点而已
这是疫苗设计的bug 和有人不打没关系 不要乱丢锅
新冠疫苗不能阻断传播 这是众人皆知的呀 和有人不打无关
就是全打了 也是继续在人群里传来传去 只是重症率低一点而已
这是疫苗设计的bug 和有人不打没关系 不要乱丢锅
CleverBeaver 发表于 2021-05-17 02:44
打了疫苗即使感染了的病毒量也是比没打疫苗感染了的少多了。如果绝大多数人都打了，就传不开了。但那么多不打的，只能等着被更强的病毒虐吧。
打了疫苗即使感染了的病毒量也是比没打疫苗感染了的少多了。如果绝大多数人都打了，就传不开了。但那么多不打的，只能等着被更强的病毒虐吧。
Rutang48 发表于 2021-05-17 02:54
两回事
真的感染了 都是怕的 肯定要躲在家里好久了
打了针的 就更容易无症状 无症状的阶段最可怕 既传染别人又充当了培养皿
新冠疫苗不能阻断传播 这是众人皆知的呀 和有人不打无关
就是全打了 也是继续在人群里传来传去 只是重症率低一点而已
这是疫苗设计的bug 和有人不打没关系 不要乱丢锅
CleverBeaver 发表于 2021-05-17 02:44
对对对，其实如果有 30% 的人不打疫苗，那么穿透疫苗的病毒，未必就能比在 30% 的人群里传染力更强的疫苗更有优势。
所以 pro-choice 也挺好。
免疫系统疾病 想等等再打
对对对，其实如果有 30% 的人不打疫苗，那么穿透疫苗的病毒，未必就能比在 30% 的2人群里传染力更强的疫苗更有优势。
所以 pro-choice 也挺好。
tidewater 发表于 2021-05-17 03:01
that is actually true
这边也有一个报道
其实搞leaky vaccine真的治标不治本
我认识的都打了，没一个不打的。
somuch 发表于 2021-05-15 00:40
是啊， 周围没有人不打的
非常奇怪，楼主住在哪儿呀？！
that is actually true
这边也有一个报道
其实搞leaky vaccine真的治标不治本
CleverBeaver 发表于 2021-05-17 03:04
弗罗里达每年放转基因蚊子，也是治标不治本。
但还是切实有效啊。
这世上有多少能治本？
两回事
真的感染了 都是怕的 肯定要躲在家里好久了
打了针的 就更容易无症状 无症状的阶段最可怕 既传染别人又充当了培养皿
CleverBeaver 发表于 2021-05-17 02:59
首先打了疫苗的，感染率比不打疫苗的低多了。
第二，不打疫苗的感染了也有很大比率无症状。充当你口中的培养皿
第三，不打疫苗的好多怕疫苗的副作用大于怕病毒感染。不见得会在家躲着。
最后，我真是闲的。大半夜回这种不着调的。