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In Fond Memory of MJ - Happy/Cute Moments

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In Fond Memory of MJ - Happy/Cute Moments
I wasn't a fan in his living days. When his influence first reached China I didn't care about him because I thought he was only good at fast songs which I wasn't into. As time went by his reputation was tarnished. The MJ created by media was a sick freak and for a long time I couldn't understand why there were still fans crazy about him. I stayed even further away from his music due to dislike about his personality. After hearing his sudden death, out of curiosity I checked out postings by his fans and started listening to his songs. And now I don't know what is worse, to lose an idol you always loved or fall in love with one after his death. I guess the only thing that can possibly be worse than both would be also knowing that the one you loved genuinely had a golden heart but was so misunderstood and so harshly treated during his last years by almost the entire world including you. This is the first time for me to initiate a posting here or anywhere in huaren. I would like to share with you all the videos about him that I really like (yes I spent the past a week or so obsessively searching/watching his videos on youtube).

------ His Happy/Cute Moments ------
(1) cute moment when filming "We are the World". His smiles were just adorable. Diana Ross was like an auntie playing with him in the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfZMaeZFpAw&feature=related

(2) a little embarrassed when he realized his zipper was unzipped while he was on stage. He blushed but very smoothly turned around and zipped up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00ABPiU7JMs&feature=related

(3) grammy '84. At request he took off his shades and gave a very shy/sweet smile. I would pass out if I were one of the girls in the back.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0iTKq_XrDA&feature=related

(4) 1997 History tour Munich. He found a bug on stage and asked the security not to kill the bug
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yyw8Rt3BBE&feature=related

(5) laugh crisis. He was getting interviewed in Japan and couldn't stop laughing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2iFoQwJnwM&feature=related

(6) 1997 Italian TV show. first cute reation to audience, then he almost forgot making his annoucement
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Zci9vHAEMY&feature=related

----- enjoy watching. I am sure those will bring smiles to your face. They did for me. Michael, you will be loved for a long time. -----
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 wow.. I have exactly same feeling as you do.  did not know his music and his golden heart till his death.
 He should be happy now..
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以下是引用hereistolife在2009-7-6 11:13:00的发言:
I wasn't a fan in his living days. When his influence first reached China I didn't care about him because I thought he was only good at fast songs which I wasn't into. As time went by his reputation was tarnished. The MJ created by media was a sick freak and for a long time I couldn't understand why there were still fans crazy about him. I stayed even further away from his music due to dislike about his personality. After hearing his sudden death, out of curiosity I checked out postings by his fans and started listening to his songs. And now I don't know what is worse, to lose an idol you always loved or fall in love with one after his death. I guess the only thing that can possibly be worse than both would be also knowing that the one you loved genuinely had a golden heart but was so misunderstood and so harshly treated during his last years by almost the entire world including you. This is the first time for me to initiate a posting here or anywhere in huaren. I would like to share with you all the videos about him that I really like (yes I spent the past a week or so obsessively searching/watching his videos on youtube).

------ His Happy/Cute Moments ------
(1) cute moment when filming "We are the World". His smiles were just adorable. Diana Ross was like an auntie playing with him in the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfZMaeZFpAw&feature=related

(2) a little embarrassed when he realized his zipper was unzipped while he was on stage. He blushed but very smoothly turned around and zipped up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00ABPiU7JMs&feature=related

(3) grammy '84. At request he took off his shades and gave a very shy/sweet smile. I would pass out if I were one of the girls in the back.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0iTKq_XrDA&feature=related

(4) 1997 History tour Munich. He found a bug on stage and asked the security not to kill the bug
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yyw8Rt3BBE&feature=related

(5) laugh crisis. He was getting interviewed in Japan and couldn't stop laughing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2iFoQwJnwM&feature=related

(6) 1997 Italian TV show. first cute reation to audience, then he almost forgot making his annoucement
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Zci9vHAEMY&feature=related

----- enjoy watching. I am sure those will bring smiles to your face. They did for me. Michael, you will be loved for a long time. -----

I did the same thing. also read books about him on Google.

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"And now I don't know what is worse, to lose an idol you always loved or fall in love with one after his death. I guess the only thing that can possibly be worse than both would be also knowing that the one you loved genuinely had a golden heart but was so misunderstood and so harshly treated during his last years by almost the entire world including you"


 


same feeling as you. Thanks for sharing

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09-07-06 12:54操作
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I became a fan after his death too. Shame on me.[em58]
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09-07-06 14:06操作
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 his smile is so cute~~~~~~~~~~~[em51]
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09-07-06 14:56操作
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great writing! nice findings
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 虽然我很爱MJ, 不过对于93年的那起案件, 我一直都没有办法让自己相信MJ是真的清白的。 否则怎么要用2千万摆平呢? neverland也就只要1千7百万。

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以下是引用lily555cn在2009-7-6 15:55:00的发言:
 虽然我很爱MJ, 不过对于93年的那起案件, 我一直都没有办法让自己相信MJ是真的清白的。 否则怎么要用2千万摆平呢? neverland也就只要1千7百万。

支持mj的说法的他当时被要求裸体拍照,然后被案子弄的基本崩溃,nerves breakdown,被亲朋好友要求庭外和解,包括lisa marie,怕他活不下去了。还有说是sony决定的,不是mj本意。
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我也是在MJ去世以后才开始关注他的,后知后觉得很。[em58]他真的是一个很独特的人。

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以下是引用美丽的野猪在2009-7-6 16:00:00的发言:

支持mj的说法的他当时被要求裸体拍照,然后被案子弄的基本崩溃,nerves breakdown,被亲朋好友要求庭外和解,包括lisa marie,怕他活不下去了。还有说是sony决定的,不是mj本意。

原来是这样, 亏的MJ太善,换个其他人估计要让对方付个2千万了。
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以下是引用lily555cn在2009-7-6 16:29:00的发言:

原来是这样, 亏的MJ太善,换个其他人估计要让对方付个2千万了。

people say whatever they wanna say and people believe what they want to believe. MJ is a legend, I would rather believe he's a caring, kind yet special person rather than a freak.
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 转载一下为什么mj要出钱摆平这件事。
1992年5月,杰克逊和13岁男孩Jordan Chandler成了好朋友。Jordan
Chandler当时是杰克逊的歌迷。到了1993年夏天,他们的朋友关系出名到了众多
小报称杰克逊为Chandler家庭的新成员的程度。Jordan Chandler也经常到杰克
逊的庄园中玩乐和过夜。Jordan Chandler的父亲Evan Chandler是一个牙医,他
承认对此情况非常嫉妒。但同时又想借此利用杰克逊,甚至提议杰克逊在他们家
房子边上造一个裙房,以便杰克逊能和他们住在一起。在1993年7月2日Evan
Chandler的一次私人电话被人录音,后来被辩方在法庭上用来作为证据。在录音
中Evan Chandler流露出了找律师敲诈杰克逊的意思。8月初,Evan Chandler给
他儿子拔了一次牙,后来Evan Chandler被迫承认在拔牙过程中,使用了一种名
叫Sodium Amytal的有争议的镇静催眠药物。有好几位精神科医师作证说此药物
能使病人易于接受暗示,从而接受指令做出并不真实的言行。正是在这次拔牙过
程中,Jordan Chandler在药物的影响下,说出了杰克逊曾经触摸过他的生殖器。
随后的一段时间中,Evan Chandler和他的律师团队向杰克逊要求2000万美元的
赔偿,否则就会将杰克逊告上法庭。杰克逊团队否认指控,并只愿出100万美元
了结此事,Chandler团队还价1500万美元,杰克逊团队还降低了最初的开价,只
愿出35万美元了。于是Chandler向警方正式控告杰克逊。Jordan Chandler向警
方和精神科医师诉说了杰克逊和他有性关系,同时还描述了杰克逊的生殖器作为
证明。8月18日,警方对杰克逊展开调查,同日,Chandler的母亲对警方说不相
信杰克逊性骚扰她的儿子。21日,警方搜查了杰克逊的庄园,同时召集了30名杰
克逊的儿童朋友进行调查,他们都称杰克逊无性骚扰行为。警方也告诉洛杉矶时
报,尚未发现杰克逊犯罪的证据。这一天案件公诸于众后,杰克逊开始了他的《
危险之旅》在曼谷的第二场演唱会。24日,警方开新闻发布会曝光了此前原告向
杰克逊提出2000万美元的赔偿要求,却没有提杰克逊的开价。25日,杰克逊的几
个儿童朋友开新闻发布会指出,虽然他们和杰克逊同睡过一张床,但没有任何不
良行为发生。随后杰克逊家族也申明对杰克逊的支持,并称杰克逊不是恋童癖。
警方又调查了Evan Chandler的财务状况,发现这个收入丰厚的牙医有68400美元
的儿童抚养帐单没有支付。11月8日,警方甚至搜查了杰克逊家族的房子,依然
毫无所获。1993年冬,素来与杰克逊家族不睦的杰克逊的姐姐La Toya Jackson
宣称杰克逊是个恋童癖,她愿以50万美元的价格出售证据。这引来了小报的疯狂
追逐,然而很快众小报发现她只是为了缓解自己的财务状况而故作惊人之语。后
来她承认她是受迫于自己的丈夫而作的这些申明。2000年以后杰克逊原谅了她。

接受警方调查之后,杰克逊的健康状况受到了严重的影响。他开始用止痛药,
以及各种抗焦虑药和镇静剂如Valium, Xanax以及Ativan来对付各种压力。在药
物的影响下,他进食减少,体重减轻了10磅,同时在与娈童案无关的另外案件的
法庭上,出现了嗜睡、无法集中注意力、吐词不清等症状。甚至有时会记不清他
的各专辑发行的年份以及身边工作人员的名字,需要几分钟才能想起他刚录制的
专辑里的歌名。在这样的健康状况下,杰克逊不得不停止了巡回演出,在朋友
Elizabeth Taylor和她丈夫的陪伴下到伦敦躲避压力,寻求治疗。

12月初,从伦敦回来之后,检察官Thomas Sneddon要求对杰克逊进行裸体检
查以印证Chandler对杰克逊身体的描述并取得了法庭的检查令。检查令要求对杰
克逊的整个身体进行检查、拍照以及摄像,“包括他的生殖器、肛门、髋部、臀
部,以及他身体的任何其他部分”。检查令申明拒绝检查将可能会在法庭上作为
有罪的证据。20日,杰克逊在庄园里接受了检查。在检查进行时,检查官和律师
都离开了房间,在杰克逊的要求之下,警方的侦探也离开了房间。房间里的人员
有医生、摄影师和杰克逊的保镖。在情绪化的状态之下,杰克逊在房间中央的一
个平台上褪去全部衣物接受了25分钟左右的检查,在检查的过程中,杰克逊没有
被触碰。检查报告最后的结论是:Chandler的描述和杰克逊的身体有一些很相象
的地方,但不是完全的符合,甚至包括矛盾的地方,例如错误地宣称杰克逊做过
包皮环切术。22日,杰克逊首次就案件发表公开申明,声称他是清白的,抨击了
众小报的捕风捉影、断章取义、乱下结论的无耻行为,声称他接受了非人道的、
令人感到羞辱的检查,这是他一生中最受侮辱的折磨,但为了证明他的清白,他
只能忍受。

到了1994年1月1日,此案已花去了加州检察部门200万美元,两个大陪审团
已经召集了超过200名证人,但Chandler的指控却始终无法确证。几个星期后,
Chandler的律师Larry Feldman申请调查杰克逊的财务状况,理由是他们担心杰
克逊的财产给了他在法庭上的不公平的优势。此时杰克逊已身心俱疲,一旦再展
开对他那庞大资产的财务状况的调查,离案件结束就遥遥无期了。经过律师、好
友、家庭的讨论,得出结论杰克逊再也无法继续接受调查。1月25日,杰克逊以
2200万美元与Chandler庭外和解,Chandler不再继续作证,案件因为证据不足无
法继续审判,杰克逊所受到的指控被撤销。此后1996年,Evan Chandler起诉杰
克逊违反了禁止谈论此案的法庭禁令,要求6000万美元的赔偿,1999年被法院驳
回。
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 I did the exact same thing as you and feel the same way.
I feel so sorry that I misunderstood MJ all these years.
I'm sorry MJ. I love you, and R.I.P..
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TNND,真是无耻之徒,真应该找到那个爹告他诬告,让他坐牢,要是在中国,应该人肉他了,让他不得安宁。
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canop, thanks for posting the details about the case. lily555cn, if you want to find out more about those alleged cases against him, wikipedia has 2 pretty good articles summarize the cases. Those are the most objective summaries I have found. The first article showed public reactions towards him before and after his team settled the case in 1993. Now looking back it was really a bad decision that those people made on his behalf.  BTW, that Chandler and that a-hole DA, I soooo wish them die the most miserable death and ASAP.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_child_sexual_abuse_accusations_against_Michael_Jackson
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_v._Jackson

It is so good to know that his fan base is growing even after his death. Think he would be happy that more and more people are finally getting to know, appreciate and love not only Michael the performer but also Michael the person.

Between searching/watching his videos I also posted on web sites (like eonline) targetted towards English speakers. It is really hard to persuade narrow-minded Americans who are ignorant yet love to take a moral high ground to judge and criticize.
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以下是引用lily555cn在2009-7-6 15:55:00的发言:
 虽然我很爱MJ, 不过对于93年的那起案件, 我一直都没有办法让自己相信MJ是真的清白的。 否则怎么要用2千万摆平呢? neverland也就只要1千7百万。

如果是钱能摆平的, 我觉得侧面反映他就是清白的.

试想作为孩子的父母, 如果儿子真的受到这样的伤害, 会拿了钱就走人吗? 我知道绝大多数的父母是不会的. 当然不排除见钱忘本的.

93年和03年的两次起诉, 对MJ的伤害太大了. 不过世上的任何人, 放在这样的情境里, 很难不break down.




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以下是引用mypanda在2009-7-7 9:47:00的发言:

如果是钱能摆平的, 我觉得侧面反映他就是清白的.

试想作为孩子的父母, 如果儿子真的受到这样的伤害, 会拿了钱就走人吗? 我知道绝大多数的父母是不会的. 当然不排除见钱忘本的.

93年和03年的两次起诉, 对MJ的伤害太大了. 不过世上的任何人, 放在这样的情境里, 很难不break down.





 


 


有你这样想法的人可能比较少.


 


我从90年代起真正喜欢他, 80年代时他虽然很红,但可能我年纪的缘故,并没特别喜欢.后来出了他官司的事,我就是属于,"要是清白的,就不会付钱"那种想法的人.现在想起来,很是羞愧. 我记得05年他打官司,很多歌迷到外面支持他,我还自己觉得自己很高尚,"虽然我喜欢他的歌,但不能那么盲目支持他干坏事". 现在一想起来就难过死了,真是对自己喜欢的歌手的一种betray啊.


 


 

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好喜欢楼主写的话,基本一样的情况
那些link真的好cute,看了忍不住心里暖暖的
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 谢谢canop mm的转载

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