怎么讲？

以下是引用fallingleaves在2007-6-13 0:10:00的发言：
看见大家讨论这个问题，是否可以成立个宗教版呢？

你看看讨论的有几个信的, 谁真感兴趣啊,闲得无聊说两句.

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应该不是.好象游人说广东话"茄汁还是茄酱来的。不过都不可信。

以下是引用疏影暗香在2007-6-13 0:13:00的发言：

你看看讨论的有几个信的, 谁真感兴趣啊,闲得无聊说两句.

恩，一般真信的，估计也都懒得去跟人家讨论了

都是不信的，去那边辩论去了

according to the Da Vinci Code. Yes. ha ha

狂汗....

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以下是引用buttercup在2007-6-13 0:13:00的发言：

怎么讲？

jesus christ' parents are jewish

how can God have human parents? b/c he was special, two body one soul, both a man and God.

如果定义他是人，那他当然是犹太人了

反正俺是定义他是人，所以俺说他是犹太人

The most popular theory is that the word ketchup was derived from "kôe-chiap" (Xiamen accent) or "kê-chiap" (Zhangzhou accent) in the Amoy dialect of China, where it meant the brine of pickled fish or shellfish.^[7] Some people prefer the Malayan word "kechap" (spelled ketjap by the Dutch), which may have come from the Chinese in the first place (see: Penang Hokkien). The Malay word means taste. And in some time in the late seventeenth century, the name and some samples might have arrived in England where it appeared in print as "catchup" in 1690 and then as "ketchup" in 1711. These names stuck with the British, who quickly appropriated them for their own pickled condiments of anchovies or oysters.

The exact Chinese characters for kôe-chiap have been disputed:

• Theory 1: "ketchup" means "茄汁": "茄" is the Chinese character for "eggplant" or a shortened form of "tomato" (番茄, literally "foreign eggplant"). "Ketchup" means "茄汁" or "tomato juice (sauce)."
  • Pronunciation in modern Taiwanese dialect (a variant of Amoy): kiô-chiap (kiô as in "gyo" in gyoza, chiap as in "jap" in Japan but with the added "i" which is pronounced like "ee"). The word derives from two words: kiô taken from "Ang Mor Kio" (紅毛茄, POJ: âng-mô·-kiô, literally "red-fur eggplant," "red-fur" as in red-haired foreigners), meaning "tomatoes" in the Amoy Hokkien dialect (Zhangzhou accent). Chiap simply means "juice," "sauce," or "gravy." Therefore kiô-chiap means tomato(kiô) sauce(chiap).
  • The pronunciation in modern Cantonese is ke-jup - pronounced remarkably the same as the English ketchup but with emphasis on the "ke" and the Voiceless postalveolar affricate "ch" sound is altered to a "j" pronunciation. Similar to the Taiwanese, the word derives from the meaning of two words, Ke, taken from "Fan Ke" meaning tomatoes in Cantonese and jup meaning juice or sauce or gravy. Therefore, ke-jup means "tomato sauce."
• Theory 2: "Ketchup" derives from 鮭汁 - 鮭 is the Chinese character for "salmon" (鮭魚), or more generically, "fish." Therefore, "ketchup" means "鮭汁" or "fish sauce".
  • Pronunciation in modern Taiwanese dialect (a variant of Amoy): 鮭 (kôe) + 汁 (chiap)
  • Pronunciation in modern Cantonese: 鮭 (gwai1) + 汁 (jap1)

jesus christ =/= god

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等于阿

新约的说法，他就是god

不过旧约说，他是god的儿子

反正都是神

不是三位一体吗？

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恩，恩，说耶稣，其实在世间没有父亲啊，只有马里亚一个母亲，未婚怀的孕。所以，世间的说法，耶稣只有妈妈没有爸爸

圣经的说法是，耶稣是上帝的儿子，马里亚是代母

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right not god, but God.

if talking within realm of christianity of course

其实我觉得，咱们的思维都有定式了，理解和接受基督教非常困难。比如：

If Jesus is God, how could he die? If Jesus died on the cross, then how can he be alive today?

ANSWER：http://www.christiananswers.net/kids/ednk-jesusalive.html

即使有了回答，我还是头大。而且，那些回答，口气上就是告诉你，这个事情，奏是这样的，没有啥为什么。但这也很正常，宗教是由于人们对超过自己认知能力的事务和概念的一种葱白，无法解释很正常了。

我也以为年纪大了思想有定式了.....不会改变....

我妹前几个月居然变成基督徒了....