应该说是喜欢不起来的音乐。讨论一下那种所有人都说好听，可是就是喜欢不起来的音乐。
我就是听不进去Beatles。

rolling stones

应该说是喜欢不起来的音乐。讨论一下那种所有人都说好听，可是就是喜欢不起来的音乐。
我就是听不进去Beatles。

downtowntrain 发表于 6/5/2014 1:41:30 AM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1632755&postid=63179551#63179551][/url]

基本上大多数classic rock的东西我都听不太进去。比如led zeppelin

Classic rock我还是可以听听的。我好像没有特别讨厌的。

这叫scaruffi syndrome

这叫scaruffi syndrome
EricDolphy 发表于 6/5/2014 10:32:26 AM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1632755&postid=63181341#63181341][/url]

哈哈，please extend

哈哈，please extend

linger25 发表于 6/5/2014 11:00:37 AM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1632755&postid=63181675#63181675][/url]

Piero Scaruffi:

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[td=50%]The fact that so many books still name the Beatles "the greatest or most significant or most influential" rock band ever only tells you how far rock music still is from becoming a serious art. Jazz critics have long recognized that the greatest jazz musicians of all times are Duke Ellington and John Coltrane, who were not the most famous or richest or best sellers of their times, let alone of all times. Classical critics rank the highly controversial Beethoven over classical musicians who were highly popular in courts around Europe. Rock critics are still blinded by commercial success: the Beatles sold more than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore they must have been the greatest. Jazz critics grow up listening to a lot of jazz music of the past, classical critics grow up listening to a lot of classical music of the past. Rock critics are often totally ignorant of the rock music of the past, they barely know the best sellers. No wonder they will think that the Beatles did anything worth of being saved.In a sense the Beatles are emblematic of the status of rock criticism as a whole: too much attention to commercial phenomena (be it grunge or U2) and too little attention to the merits of real musicians. If somebody composes the most divine music but no major label picks him up and sells him around the world, a lot of rock critics will ignore him. If a major label picks up a musician who is as stereotyped as one can be but launches her or him worldwide, your average critic will waste rivers of ink on her or him. This is the sad status of rock criticism: rock critics are basically publicists working for free for major labels, distributors and record stores. They simply publicize what the music business wants to make money with.
Hopefully, one not-too-distant day, there will be a clear demarcation between a great musician like Tim Buckley, who never sold much, and commercial products like the Beatles. And rock critics will study more of rock history and realize who invented what and who simply exploited it commercially.
Beatles' "aryan" music removed any trace of black music from rock and roll: it replaced syncopated african rhythm with linear western melody, and lusty negro attitudes with cute white-kid smiles.
Contemporary musicians never spoke highly of the Beatles, and for a good reason. They could not figure out why the Beatles' songs should be regarded more highly than their own. They knew that the Beatles were simply lucky to become a folk phenomenon (thanks to "Beatlemania", which had nothing to do with their musical merits). That phenomenon kept alive interest in their (mediocre) musical endeavours to this day. Nothing else grants the Beatles more attention than, say, the Kinks or the Rolling Stones. There was nothing intrinsically better in the Beatles' music. Ray Davies of the Kinks was certainly a far better songwriter than Lennon & McCartney. The Stones were certainly much more skilled musicians than the 'Fab Fours'. And Pete Townshend was a far more accomplished composer, capable of "Tommy" and "Quadrophenia". Not to mention later and far greater British musicians. Not to mention the American musicians who created what the Beatles later sold to the masses.
The Beatles sold a lot of records not because they were the greatest musicians but simply because their music was easy to sell to the masses: it had no difficult content, it had no technical innovations, it had no creative depth. They wrote a bunch of catchy 3-minute ditties and they were photogenic. If somebody had not invented "beatlemania" in 1963, you would not have wasted five minutes of your time to read a page about such a trivial band.

thanks, great read to start the day easier to sell to masses和评价高的关联度感觉还是和rock在academic的项目不广泛度有关，比如我们学校的音乐系根本没有rock相关的minor or master program，我遇到几个吉他手和鼓手都是jazz major

涨姿势了！

[url=http://www.icce.rug.nl/~soundscapes/DATABASES/AWP/awp-notes_on.shtml]http://www.icce.rug.nl/~soundscapes/DATABASES/AWP/awp-notes_on.shtml[/url] Alan W. Pollack is a musicologist. He is best known for having musically analysed every Beatles song released. He started the task in 1989 and finished in 2000, with 187 original songs and 25 cover songs. The analyses have come to be known as the "Notes on..." Series, as each is entitled "Notes on Love Me Do", "Notes on Help!" and so on. The notes were released weekly, usually on Wednesdays, on the rec.music.beatles usenet group.[1] Pollack holds a B.A. in Music from Brooklyn College and both an M.A. and PhD from the University of Pennsylvania in Music Theory and Composition. He was an instructor of music theory and composition at Yale University from 1975–1977. Since 1979 he has pursued a career in software engineering.

Green Day has stepped over the line to just being vaguely, in the dumbest possible, jocked-out, three-fourths shorts-wearing way, [adopts Billie Joe voice] “Fuck you to nothing in general.” Like some dickhead oil executive would get into his Hummer and drive down the street and put on “American Idiot” and be like, “Fuck yeah, this rules. I’m gonna go beat up my son!”
DavidBowie 发表于 6/9/2014 11:08:37 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1632755&postid=63233814#63233814][/url]

有视频或者音频么？

[url=http://www.icce.rug.nl/~soundscapes/DATABASES/AWP/awp-notes_on.shtml]http://www.icce.rug.nl/~soundscapes/DATABASES/AWP/awp-notes_on.shtml[/url]

Alan W. Pollack is a musicologist. He is best known for having musically analysed every Beatles song released. He started the task in 1989 and finished in 2000, with 187 original songs and 25 cover songs. The analyses have come to be known as the "Notes on..." Series, as each is entitled "Notes on Love Me Do", "Notes on Help!" and so on. The notes were released weekly, usually on Wednesdays, on the rec.music.beatles usenet group.[1]

Pollack holds a B.A. in Music from Brooklyn College and both an M.A. and PhD from the University of Pennsylvania in Music Theory and Composition. He was an instructor of music theory and composition at Yale University from 1975–1977. Since 1979 he has pursued a career in software engineering.
EricDolphy 发表于 6/9/2014 11:14:50 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1632755&postid=63233882#63233882][/url]

把青春献给Beatles 了？

这个家伙像是会上mit musicplayer版的


DavidBowie 发表于 6/9/2014 11:18:32 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1632755&postid=63233912#63233912][/url]

太阳叔叔那个bassline太耳熟！

应该说是喜欢不起来的音乐。讨论一下那种所有人都说好听，可是就是喜欢不起来的音乐。
我就是听不进去Beatles。

downtowntrain 发表于 6/5/2014 1:41:30 AM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1632755&postid=63179551#63179551][/url]

点一万个赞同！他们太被 over rated了！