以下是引用kangqiao在3/3/2010 3:45:00 PM的发言：
我觉得你说话真和你的ID一样很mean
我觉得你说话真和你的ID一样很mean
你这话说得也不nice啊，不过无所谓啦， 谁管你怎么觉得呢
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以下是引用说你傻你就傻在3/3/2010 4:06:00 PM的发言：
快点解答我的疑问
你这话说得也不nice啊，不过无所谓啦， 谁管你怎么觉得呢
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以下是引用dancingsnow在3/3/2010 4:04:00 PM的发言：
我认为是双方一同造成的 卖家卖的时候没看日期 买家买的时候没问日期 双方都有责任我来接你这个哈 :) 纯理论的
你说卖家承担责任后也成了受损方，但她的损失是自己的过失造成的，所以其实不算受损，是自损 
一定要说受损的话，那是受店家所害，应该找店家赔偿。但是店家可以给你退货，但绝不会附带你再卖出去的邮费
那个。。。mm。。。你是想让双方一致对立呢？还是想她们早点解决问题？
如果想早点解决问题，换个角度行不？
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以下是引用immj在3/3/2010 4:03:00 PM的发言：
嗯,我也记得美国没有什么:所有吃的东西都要表上保质期这个规定，不知道说你傻你就傻是哪国的法律．
ｇｏｏｇｌｅ了一下，人家只说婴儿食品要求保质期，
The Food & Drug Administration, which regulates packaged foods and drugs, only requires a use-by, or expiration, date on infant formula. That's because formula must contain a certain quantity of each nutrient that is described on the label. And if formula is stored too long, it loses its nutritional quality, and also separates or form lumps that will clog the bottle nipple.
嗯,我也记得美国没有什么:所有吃的东西都要表上保质期这个规定，不知道说你傻你就傻是哪国的法律．
ｇｏｏｇｌｅ了一下，人家只说婴儿食品要求保质期，
The Food & Drug Administration, which regulates packaged foods and drugs, only requires a use-by, or expiration, date on infant formula. That's because formula must contain a certain quantity of each nutrient that is described on the label. And if formula is stored too long, it loses its nutritional quality, and also separates or form lumps that will clog the bottle nipple.
我现在也是只看小孩子吃的东西的保质期，大人的吃了拉了肚子当省了减肥药钱：）
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我的那个肥羊上喷的字也和大家不一样~~
这个字是店家自己喷的吗?还是厂家啊,,随意性很大啊
我写的是
D. 2009/11/18. TA
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以下是引用blsunday在3/3/2010 4:05:00 PM的发言：
是没有刑事责任吧，民事责任还是要负的。不过是他自己的女儿，赔不赔钱的就无所谓了
嗯。是她要出门，以为两个大儿子看住三岁小女儿，没想到小女儿钻到车后面，她一倒车就压了。。。
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以下是引用cxvv在3/3/2010 4:08:00 PM的发言：
你那个肥羊是真的么。。。我的那个肥羊上喷的字也和大家不一样~~
这个字是店家自己喷的吗?还是厂家啊,,随意性很大啊
我写的是
D. 2009/11/18. TA
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以下是引用cxvv在3/3/2010 4:05:00 PM的发言：
我觉得换版最近两个楼的大分歧就是卖家是否主观故意.
大部分群众的意见是卖家是无意的.小部分群众反之.
于是楼起来咯...
是不是故意的都无关紧要，还是说清楚怎么解决就完了。
我觉得买家可以要求退货，不过大字报惹怒买家反到使退货变得困难了。。。
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以下是引用linglituo在3/3/2010 4:08:00 PM的发言：
嗯。是她要出门，以为两个大儿子看住三岁小女儿，没想到小女儿钻到车后面，她一倒车就压了。。。
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太可怜了～～～
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以下是引用说你傻你就傻在3/3/2010 4:05:00 PM的发言：
只要是在美国的中国店，就是基本要求，你不要求是你个人的选择，但不影响别人有这个权利
GOVERNMENT GUIDELINES. What does the government say? The Food & Drug Administration, which regulates packaged foods and drugs, only requires a use-by, or expiration, date on infant formula. That's because formula must contain a certain quantity of each nutrient that is described on the label. And if formula is stored too long, it loses its nutritional quality, and also separates or form lumps that will clog the bottle nipple.
The Agriculture Dept., which regulates fresh
produce and meats, only requires labeling of the date when poultry is
packed at the farm. However, many manufacturers are allowed to also add
sell-by or use-by dates. "Grocery stores that grind their own meat can
add their own package labels," says USDA spokesman Steve Cohen.
In
fact, both the FDA and the USDA have a pretty laissez-faire attitude
when it comes to food shelf-life labeling. That's not because they are
not concerned for people's health. Mark Harrison, professor of food
science at the University of Georgia, points out that most of these
dates are not an indicator of safety, rather of quality. "Some foods
spoil if not refrigerated quickly enough—but they won't kill you," says
Harrison.
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以下是引用apple:-)在3/3/2010 4:08:00 PM的发言：
你那个肥羊是真的么。。。
你那个肥羊是真的么。。。
应该是吧...我们的大亚洲是四里八乡最大的中国超市
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至于不要恶意揣测别人，卖家首先卖了没有保质期的食物，无论是有意还是过失，她都已经错在先了，何况还是有money invovled, 她就已经失去了benefit of doubt了。不恶意揣测她是买家nice, 但买家没有责任对她nice，相反地，怎么恶意揣测她都不为过。
况且，卖家卖出了没有保质期的食物，在买家来沟通的时候，居然说不退不换，这就是ＮＩＣＥ？
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以下是引用apple:-)在3/3/2010 4:08:00 PM的发言：
你那个肥羊是真的么。。。
你那个肥羊是真的么。。。
这个不会有假的吧～～我在国内买过两种不同的，一种大包装的，要20多人民币，小包装的是10多人民币。貌似就是分量小点？加拿大的和国内大包装的一样。不过我都没关注过生产日期
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再给转一个：
With exception of certain poultry, baby food products and formulas most all other food product expiration dates are not required by federal law but are voluntarily provided by food manufacturers. This does vary from state to state and many states legislate sell-by dates for perishable foods. According to several sources including the USDA there are 20 states that require some mandatory labeling for dairy products. So far we know that Arizona, California, Ohio, and New York have some labeling laws. (Read about California's milk labeling law)
Dates Are Guidelines
On the most part dates are provided as guidelines for both product sellers and the buying public. Most dates are NOT expiration dates; you are not going to get sick because you eat something past its "best by" date. Some dates have become marketing devices for product manufactures. A good example of this are dates that are appearing on soft drinks. There really is not much to expire with a beverage made of water, sugar, and artificial coloring. This is one of those cases where the manufacturer appears to just be encouraging you to throw it out and buy more.
About The Law
Most Dates Are VoluntaryWith exception of certain poultry, baby food products and formulas most all other food product expiration dates are not required by federal law but are voluntarily provided by food manufacturers. This does vary from state to state and many states legislate sell-by dates for perishable foods. According to several sources including the USDA there are 20 states that require some mandatory labeling for dairy products. So far we know that Arizona, California, Ohio, and New York have some labeling laws. (Read about California's milk labeling law)
Dates Are Guidelines
On the most part dates are provided as guidelines for both product sellers and the buying public. Most dates are NOT expiration dates; you are not going to get sick because you eat something past its "best by" date. Some dates have become marketing devices for product manufactures. A good example of this are dates that are appearing on soft drinks. There really is not much to expire with a beverage made of water, sugar, and artificial coloring. This is one of those cases where the manufacturer appears to just be encouraging you to throw it out and buy more.
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以下是引用apple:-)在3/3/2010 4:07:00 PM的发言：
我认为是双方一同造成的 卖家卖的时候没看日期 买家买的时候没问日期 双方都有责任
那个。。。mm。。。你是想让双方一致对立呢？还是想她们早点解决问题？
如果想早点解决问题，换个角度行不？
我认为是双方一同造成的 卖家卖的时候没看日期 买家买的时候没问日期 双方都有责任
那个。。。mm。。。你是想让双方一致对立呢？还是想她们早点解决问题？
如果想早点解决问题，换个角度行不？
呵呵，我就是纯学术讨论哈
你说的双方都有责任就把问题拉回起跑点了。我的观点是买家自然assume出售的都是在保质期内的商品，因为这是合乎道德行为准则的，所以买家没有问保质期。买家不该承担责任啊。
解决方案我前面也提了一个，应该还不太离谱吧。
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幸亏我没买回来代购~~要不喷字不一样,,我也要被大字报了..后怕~~~
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以下是引用cxvv在3/3/2010 4:05:00 PM的发言：
可以证明卖家不是故意了。。。。这个似乎买方也同意了。我觉得换版最近两个楼的大分歧就是卖家是否主观故意.
大部分群众的意见是卖家是无意的.小部分群众反之.
于是楼起来咯...
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以下是引用说你傻你就傻在3/3/2010 4:10:00 PM的发言：
你还是没有回答我的问题
至于不要恶意揣测别人，卖家首先卖了没有保质期的食物，无论是有意还是过失，她都已经错在先了，何况还是有money invovled, 她就已经失去了benefit of doubt了。不恶意揣测她是买家nice, 但买家没有责任对她nice，相反地，怎么恶意揣测她都不为过。
况且，卖家卖出了没有保质期的食物，在买家来沟通的时候，居然说不退不换，这就是ＮＩＣＥ？
你说的食品法在哪里
如果美国的食品法都没规定不能卖没有过期日期的东西,那么卖家凭什么要负担这个责任
[此贴子已经被作者于2010/3/3 16:13:37编辑过]
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以下是引用cxvv在3/3/2010 4:11:00 PM的发言：
幸亏我没买回来代购~~要不喷字不一样,,我也要被大字报了..后怕~~~
幸亏我没买回来代购~~要不喷字不一样,,我也要被大字报了..后怕~~~
我还没 找到猪头啊。要是他那没有，你给我代购～～～![[em56]](https://emojis.huaren.us/static/emojis/v1/yoci/em56.gif)
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以下是引用说你傻你就傻在3/3/2010 4:10:00 PM的发言：
至于不要恶意揣测别人，卖家首先卖了没有保质期的食物，无论是有意还是过失，她都已经错在先了，何况还是有money invovled, 她就已经失去了benefit of doubt了。不恶意揣测她是买家nice, 但买家没有责任对她nice，相反地，怎么恶意揣测她都不为过。
况且，卖家卖出了没有保质期的食物，在买家来沟通的时候，居然说不退不换，这就是ＮＩＣＥ？
please always remind me to stay away from you. Thanks
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