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冬奥含金量最高的花滑金牌Nathan Chen(陈巍)不值得拥有专楼吗?两个经典比赛视频!!!再加上一颗遗珠!

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https://fs-gossips.com/rafael-arutyunyan-i-dont-love-any-of-you-but-i-will-love-the-one-who-will-train-well/


Is it really possible to maintain the top level training by Skype?

– For 7-8 years of our training he have got a very solid base, there is a good reserve, so when he was offered a scholarship at the university, he couldn’t refuse. It is possible that this is the dream of his life. The university is very expensive, parents would have never been able to pay for it. Nathan decided that he will study for two years and will come to me on holidays, some of them will be just before the national championships. While he’s coping, he won the American Grand Prix and will try to win in France. He understands that he is losing in preparation, but he gains in another. In general, he has a plan to take an academic leave after two years of study, to prepare for the Olympic Games. He thinks that’s enough. It may work out, but it will be difficult.

When an athlete has nothing in his life except figure skating, it leads to emptiness after the end of his career, but if he begins to get a serious education, the results go down …

– But there is a balance, even if skaters lose something in sports, they still gain life experience. After all, they are very motivated for the result and everything that happens around passes by them. And when a person studies and trains, his horizons expand and he begins to evaluate everything differently.

But in this case, doesn’t education become a hindrance to the achievement of the main goal – the Olympic medal, which can become a ticket to another life?

– I don’t agree that medal gives a start in life. I know very many Olympic champions whom the gold medal didn’t help much in their lives. So the balance is much more important: sport plus horizons.


miavita 发表于 2022-02-23 16:18

Well said. Is this from his coach? Great vision!

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我觉得yale不会因为经济问题读不起,但是读书也是一个大问题,等完全退役了再开始确实太晚了。如果想学医的话lab course是有硬标准的,没有捷径。Vincent那个好像是本医连读,课程要求搞不好更多


chashaobao 发表于 2022-02-23 16:15

vincent都gap了五年了,他们家的教育读书还是第一位的。除了上学,疫情估计也打乱了很多安排。

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https://fs-gossips.com/rafael-arutyunyan-today-a-15-year-old-figure-skater-legally-performing-in-senior-competitions-doesnt-bear-any-responsibility-even-in-case-of-violation-of-existing-rules-theres-no-logic/


还有个采访, 原来在18奥运会Nathan自己换了短节目的element啊

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这些人有个共同特点就是喜欢断章取义,又或着就是英语理解能力不行。以前 Raf 说过 rules are made to be broken,艾玛,一堆人刷屏说 Nathan 公然违反规则,到现在为止他哪里违反过什么规则?

人家教练的意思是不要拘泥于条条框框,要 be creative,这个跟 Javi 的 “excuse” 一样,用词是要联系 context 来理解的。


helichrysum 发表于 2022-02-23 15:58

英语太差,又没幽默感

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好象没有奖学金吧。 Raf就算是说理解也是口头上的。毕竟陈巍full time滑冰最符合他的利益。


记得小周的教练还飞过去指导他,Raf拒绝去。

有一次Raf带选手去莫斯科比赛,陈巍就飞过去接受指导。


chatchat 发表于 2022-02-23 16:09

陈巍说过,半年Skype 了四次。

然后他又破纪录了。

天才就是天才。

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疫情改变一切,基础打好了之后,以后是不是不要花那么多钱请教练了😂

对疫情期间出好成绩的运动员,真是非常佩服

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https://fs-gossips.com/rafael-arutyunyan-i-dont-love-any-of-you-but-i-will-love-the-one-who-will-train-well/


Is it really possible to maintain the top level training by Skype?

– For 7-8 years of our training he have got a very solid base, there is a good reserve, so when he was offered a scholarship at the university, he couldn’t refuse. It is possible that this is the dream of his life. The university is very expensive, parents would have never been able to pay for it. Nathan decided that he will study for two years and will come to me on holidays, some of them will be just before the national championships. While he’s coping, he won the American Grand Prix and will try to win in France. He understands that he is losing in preparation, but he gains in another. In general, he has a plan to take an academic leave after two years of study, to prepare for the Olympic Games. He thinks that’s enough. It may work out, but it will be difficult.

When an athlete has nothing in his life except figure skating, it leads to emptiness after the end of his career, but if he begins to get a serious education, the results go down …

– But there is a balance, even if skaters lose something in sports, they still gain life experience. After all, they are very motivated for the result and everything that happens around passes by them. And when a person studies and trains, his horizons expand and he begins to evaluate everything differently.

But in this case, doesn’t education become a hindrance to the achievement of the main goal – the Olympic medal, which can become a ticket to another life?

– I don’t agree that medal gives a start in life. I know very many Olympic champions whom the gold medal didn’t help much in their lives. So the balance is much more important: sport plus horizons.


miavita 发表于 2022-02-23 16:18

谢谢分享这个 - 我也是记得看到这篇采访,对Rafael很有好感。他另外的采访里有提到说top athletes like Nathan很有自己的想法,很多时候他作为教练需要take some strategies/tricks 去引导和说服。

Nathan自己的采访里也有说过,远程指导虽然在开始的时候他和教练都不sure是不是会work out,但是在实际进行的过程中发现其实quite ok, 因为Rafael对他很了解,所以听他描述训练中出现的一些问题直接就指出可能个根源,然后他回去练。

Kurt browning 经常夸Nathan的地方就是He (Nathan) is the kind of athletes who see above the trees.

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疫情改变一切,基础打好了之后,以后是不是不要花那么多钱请教练了😂


cebublue 发表于 2022-02-23 16:31

他教练好像还说过,他读了两年书, raf 教他的东西一点没lose 还进步了,很不容易。

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疫情改变一切,基础打好了之后,以后是不是不要花那么多钱请教练了😂

对疫情期间出好成绩的运动员,真是非常佩服


cebublue 发表于 2022-02-23 16:31

不是吧,教练还挺重要的感觉。

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他教练好像还说过,他读了两年书, raf 教他的东西一点没lose 还进步了,很不容易。


ConnieBear 发表于 2022-02-23 16:33

太自律了,在大学里那么多诱惑还能一边学习一边练习滑冰。

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疫情改变一切,基础打好了之后,以后是不是不要花那么多钱请教练了😂

对疫情期间出好成绩的运动员,真是非常佩服


cebublue 发表于 2022-02-23 16:31

据我观察,Raf 这个教练不仅提供技术指导,还兼任老妈子角色 LOL

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他教练好像还说过,他读了两年书, raf 教他的东西一点没lose 还进步了,很不容易。


ConnieBear 发表于 2022-02-23 16:33

我记得他说的是根本没进步,只是原地踏步。他是不高兴的。

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看了看wiki Nathan好像是Raf带的第一个奥运金牌, 也算是圆梦了。

他还带过关颖珊, 虽然是goat但是没得过金牌

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不是吧,教练还挺重要的感觉。


ConnieBear 发表于 2022-02-23 16:35

开玩笑了,他们为了教练各种搬家,肯定是不可或缺的。不过他这种人才,家里也是全方位推,继续读书深造是必然的。

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看了看wiki Nathan好像是Raf带的第一个奥运金牌, 也算是圆梦了。

他还带过关颖珊, 虽然是goat但是没得过金牌


miavita 发表于 2022-02-23 16:41

关颖珊主要是Frank Carroll带的,从很小带起直到世界冠军。后来为了拼奥运会金牌转投Raf,想改善跳跃。不过不行就是不行。换了教练也没用。

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开玩笑了,他们为了教练各种搬家,肯定是不可或缺的。不过他这种人才,家里也是全方位推,继续读书深造是必然的。


cebublue 发表于 2022-02-23 16:42

觉得这种天才真的不是推出来的。

比如他夸妈妈开12小时车送他训练啥的,估计板上一半以上的妈妈都会说,给我一个Nathan 娃, 开车,我可以的。

如果我娃像他,做白日梦去了,我开20个小时也可以啊!

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觉得这种天才真的不是推出来的。

比如他夸妈妈开12小时车送他训练啥的,估计板上一半以上的妈妈都会说,给我一个Nathan 娃, 开车,我可以的。

如果我娃像他,做白日梦去了,我开20个小时也可以啊!


ConnieBear 发表于 2022-02-23 16:47

全方面推的意思是,他的眼界应该不止花滑,vincent家里也是的,所以他们肯定是要move on到其他事业上。

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觉得这种天才真的不是推出来的。

比如他夸妈妈开12小时车送他训练啥的,估计板上一半以上的妈妈都会说,给我一个Nathan 娃, 开车,我可以的。

如果我娃像他,做白日梦去了,我开20个小时也可以啊!


ConnieBear 发表于 2022-02-23 16:47

哈哈哈哈,可不是么,缺的是推妈么?缺的是nathan这种自推娃呀

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觉得这种天才真的不是推出来的。

比如他夸妈妈开12小时车送他训练啥的,估计板上一半以上的妈妈都会说,给我一个Nathan 娃, 开车,我可以的。

如果我娃像他,做白日梦去了,我开20个小时也可以啊!


ConnieBear 发表于 2022-02-23 16:47

我看他三岁滑冰的视频。三岁就敢跳了,我这种现在都还连站都站不稳。天赋是有的。当然他妈妈也是很伟大。


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我看他三岁滑冰的视频。三岁就敢跳了,我这种现在都还连站都站不稳。天赋是有的。当然他妈妈也是很伟大。



四叶幸运草 发表于 2022-02-23 16:53

他姐姐说的妈妈sacrifice everything,不是空话。

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