很多国家和动物园都拒绝过，这个曾经上过报道的，四川的熊猫培养基地那个时候养了不少是打算全世界送的，后来因为送不出去了就不再繁殖那么多了。反正繁殖一个都那么难，熊猫那么大，宝宝却那么小，生存力还那么弱，要暖箱和派人抱着怀里喂奶的。

cigna 发表于 2023-02-28 15:11

从影视明星那里讨回那么多税，拨一个零头多养一些不行么真的是，明星、主播随便一部剧一场直播收好几千万能养活多少熊猫，同样都能带来娱乐效益的完全可以通过熊猫卖萌赚钱的。

从影视明星那里讨回那么多税，拨一个零头多养一些不行么真的是，明星、主播随便一部剧一场直播收好几千万能养活多少熊猫，同样都能带来娱乐效益的完全可以通过熊猫卖萌赚钱的。

nvm 发表于 2023-02-28 16:27

韭菜，那是压榨到最后一滴的，熊猫也如此

我看Facebook和Google都可以注册一个假名字去留言吧

georgia 也是红州啊，但是一直都是对几只熊猫很好的

ukulele 发表于 2023-02-28 15:13

https://www.270towin.com/states/Georgia

目前不管蓝还是红都是一半一半的，俩饲养员中至少能有一个蓝的有点人性。

TN是全红，你看地理位置就晓得了，shithole place

我怀疑一些游客可能不知道正常大熊猫长什么样，之前看过一个丫丫最近的视频，瘦的皮包骨了，可是还有小朋友的声音在那赞叹说 “它好cute啊！”，怀疑是他们真的不知道正常的大熊猫应该是白白胖胖的，唉。。。

凡 发表于 2023-02-28 15:37

38岁去世的大熊猫都没这么差的状态

我在小红书上刷到视频，有关心熊猫的华人去找动物园办公室的人询问丫丫是不是4月7日回家，结果办公室的人说不知道具体

上赶的一副贱样

我真的想捶死中动协那群垃圾

nvm 发表于 2023-02-28 16:24

中动物协会，有没有网站，赶快去留言，别再把熊猫租给孟菲斯动物园。

能不能提前回国啊？就怕丫丫一直饿着，撑不到四月啊！

我感觉联系孟菲斯的动物园，没有用。这些人油烟不进。

我感觉需要联系中国的相关部门，给他们施加压力，让他们出面，把丫丫提前接回国。反正就剩一个多月就到期了。

phoenix2002 发表于 2023-02-28 15:45

专家团（娘家人）来过了刚走！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！

美国人会真诚地相信，熊猫来了美国是来享福，在中国才是地狱。就像我在某个李子柒的视频下面，看到有个美国老哥善心大发，发comment问：有人知道怎么联系这个姑娘吗？我可以娶她，让她能来美国。

结果别人告诉他，李子柒光youtube视频一年赚的钱，搞不好就够他操劳一辈子，恐怕不会考虑他的建议，结果他就发飙暴走了。

驫龘麤靐 发表于 2023-02-27 21:56

说的很形象。。

专家团（娘家人）来过了刚走！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！！

nvm 发表于 2023-02-28 16:37

不能提前把丫丫接回国吗？这些专家，真差劲！可能见了外国人，腿就软了。

不能提前把丫丫接回国吗？这些专家，真差劲！可能见了外国人，腿就软了。

phoenix2002 发表于 2023-02-28 16:39

这个有手续，好像是美国这边一直拖着不给办，咱自己都准备好了的。

中国专门成立中心，从头到尾的研究熊猫，投入大，人员专业。 在美国那个动物园， 它就是动物之一。待遇肯定千差万别。其实最好的就是别往外面出租了。世界上没有别的地方有中国更好的适合熊猫的地方。其他地方连竹子都不产。

bunnybear 发表于 2023-02-28 16:09

不是不产而是一般被认为是invasive所以不种

刚看到有这个页面……

https://www.memphiszoo.org/donate-bamboo

这个有手续，好像是美国这边一直拖着不给办，咱自己都准备好了的。

longtai 发表于 2023-02-28 16:42

孟菲斯动物园，既然养不起熊猫，让丫丫提前归国，不是挺好的。

不能提前把丫丫接回国吗？这些专家，真差劲！可能见了外国人，腿就软了。

phoenix2002 发表于 2023-02-28 16:39

专家不至于这么没见过世面。专家也没法，上面让他们怎样只能怎样

熊猫平均寿命20-25岁。丫丫2000年出生，今年23岁，在熊猫界已经是92以上的高龄了。而且国内派来了专家给丫丫看病，已经说了除了掉毛没有其他疾病。90多了还不让秃啦？其他层主说的状态很好的福宝2020年出生的，才3岁。拿个婴儿/青年和老太太比，那是不一样。一天到晚说看着熊猫就要哭要掉眼泪，那如果熊猫真受虐待，还能活到92岁这个熊猫真的基因不错。而且这20年间受虐待的时候也没见着咱们人抱着照片视频哭。能不能客观点不被营销号带节奏。

你们都去social Media上面推这事儿了吗？让更多人知道呗

你们都去social Media上面推这事儿了吗？让更多人知道呗

MiaGoth 发表于 2023-02-28 16:47

推上有pandavoices.org但也就一千多个follower

其他美国社交平台不太用

过去从来对kol不感冒

突然发现掌握舆论的重要性

几年前还在Memphis的时候经常去看他们，状态都不错，毛色很好，就是不怎么动，无论什么时候去，他俩都是一人窝一个角落啃竹子吃。竹子到是看着蛮多的，不像不够吃的样子。现在不知道是怎么了。Memphis zoo没钱了吗？

faydevil 发表于 2023-02-27 22:52

熊猫就是很懒不动的，其国内看也那样

我看网友也说covid之前还行的

不知道为啥这两年这么摆烂了，可能就是穷了吧

Complaint Form Submission:

Memphis Zoo: www.memphiszoo.org/contact-form

Memphis Congress Rep Steven Cohen:https://cohen.house.gov/zip-code-lookup?form=/contact/email

Tennessee Governor’s Office:https://www.tn.gov/governor/contact-us.html

USDA Animal Welfare: https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/ourfocus/animalwelfare/complaint-form

US Fish &Wildlife Services: https://www.fws.gov/duspit/contactus.htm

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Dear Sir or Madam,

I am writing to express my dismay of the physical and psychological suffering of pandas YaYa and LeLe at the Memphis Zoo.

I am informed that YaYa and LeLe has been suffering from hunger, incompatible low-quality bamboos, lack of enrichments and excessive caging time, causing them to be underweight and malnourished.

From 2007 to 2012, the zoo has performed 4 artificial inseminations on YaYa which ended with 4 abortions and caused irreversible damage to her body.

YaYa has been tortured by parasite infection for over a decade, causing extreme itching and shedding. Her skin disease started in 2008 and 13 years later it has spread throughout her entire body. This fact is confirmed by Beijing Zoo in 2014 and 2020 yet the Memphis Zoo openly denies. YaYa may also have blood parasite problem but is unable to be confirmed without the zoo’s willingness for honest disclosure.

LeLe is in a slight better condition than YaYa, but he has had dental problems over the years. From the videos, he seems to have difficulty in biting and chewing bamboo. International panda fans have asked the Memphis zoo regarding the detail of LeLe’s dental condition, but Memphis Zoo has not responded to the requests.

The fact that LeLe is older than YaYa yet appear in better condition has raised my doubt on Memphis Zoo and AZA’s claim they’re both perfectly healthy. My doubt was raised even more when Beijing Zoo requested a remote vet diagnosis session but was rejected by Memphis Zoo.

Both pandas appear malnourished compared to other pandas in any given zoo worldwide. The cause might be insufficient bamboo and inadequate quality/type. Memphis Zoo claims that their 11 acres of bamboo farm is a major source of bamboo for BOTH pandas, yet research show that 17 acres bamboo farm may be sustainable for only ONE panda. Confirmed by Toronto Zoo’s 2013 media release, Memphis Zoo’s bamboo were sold to Toronto Zoo and later to the Calgary Zoo spanning at least 3 years. This no doubt caused shortage, since in 2016, Memphis Zoo asked for bamboo donation from locals to support YaYa, LeLe and Calgary zoo.

During the pandemic, Memphis Zoo has temporarily paused exhibitions. Through the 24-hr panda cam, fans found YaYa and LeLe locked in the den for up to 18 hours a day. This caused serious mental distress as pandas need big spaces. (e.g. Netherlands Zoo constructed 36000 sq.ft of space for their 2 pandas to roam freely and at will) YaYa and LeLe are showing serious stereotypical behavior  INCLUDING SELF-ABUSE from excessive caging that could cause appetite loss. This is very dangerous considering pandas already have a poor rate of conversion from bamboo.

Furthermore, all animals in the world needs enrichment in environment and diet. YaYa and LeLe rarely receive any othersupplements than bamboo (e.g. carrots, pumpkins, corn, wheat etc) This creates imbalance in nutrients on top of the already insufficient bamboo.

Due to Covid19, I have given the Memphis Zoo benefit of the doubt, as the Zoo has claimed financial hardship that led to gran-seeking, fundraising and local donor programs. But, according to panda fans who investigated their 2019 IRS return, there is 7.3 million in publicly traded securities, 7.1 million in salaries and only 3.5 million for animal cost. An outsider one might not know the whole story, but from the investments made, the zoo doesn’t seem to be in extreme hardship that justifies their continuous mistreatment of the pandas. The FREEDOM to roam in open spaces at will and occasional supplements doesn’t cost a leg; and I believe the actions of the Memphis Zoo borderlines violation of the Animal Welfare Act.

I sincerely ask you to investigate and communicate with the Memphis Zoo. If the bamboo supply, amount of professional vet and financial capability are indeed not guaranteed due to Covid19, then please send YaYa and LeLe back to their hometown in China where they get the scientifically correct treatment that senior pandas need.

这是21年panda voice 的抗议信模版。可怜乐乐当时还活着，健康状况甚至比丫丫好。如今乐乐已不在了。大家诉求很简单，给它们吃饱，如果竹子不够给点辅食胡萝卜南瓜苹果，实在不行送回中国．．．

怎么解释万圣节孟菲斯给不吃南瓜的动物都准备了南瓜，丫丫和乐乐却没有。

网友也放了其它三十几岁熊猫的状态，不是丫丫乐乐形如枯槁这般模样。

就算是人，过得好的老人和过得不好的老人大家也能看得出来。

正是因为丫丫乐乐基因好，所以每天吃不饱抑郁还能坚持这么多年。

熊猫就是很懒不动的，其国内看也那样

我看网友也说covid之前还行的

不知道为啥这两年这么摆烂了，可能就是穷了吧

anotherhome0713 发表于 2023-02-28 16:51

covid 期间我们去的最多的就是动物园。。。。就是年纪大了吧。。。。