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捐助人关于捐助“不治之症”的思考,和对隔壁美眉质疑的几个问题的正面

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赞,希望更多人伸出援手!
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赞GILDA! 希望捐款能让安安做这次治疗,即使走了,也让家人没有遗憾。
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我好喜欢gilda的帖子。gilda是智商情商涵养人品都超级高的MM。
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我基本同意gilda 的几点, 但是也有一些不同的看发。 HIPEC is not a standard of care in US for a lot of disease. But insurance still covers in most cases. However, there is no evidence that HIPEC works in her disease. I can not believe that she is going to Cancer Treatment Center of America and will donate all the rest of money to them. It is a franchised private group practice (in her home page). I think this is a situation that many academic centers denied her case because of lacking of evidence and risk is greater that benefit. We are all saddened by her dying young. But at certain point, you have to say to yourself, enough is enough, which is a relieve for herself and her poor husband. Again, my opinion may not be relevant to the donation.
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说得太好了。顶起来。
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我好喜欢gilda的帖子。gilda是智商情商涵养人品都超级高的MM。

Juicy2012 发表于 12/14/2015 11:23:56 AM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1940040&postid=70058391#70058391][/url]

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我基本同意gilda 的几点, 但是也有一些不同的看发。 HIPEC is not a standard of care in US for a lot of disease. But insurance still covers in most cases. However, there is no evidence that HIPEC works in her disease. I can not believe that she is going to Cancer Treatment Center of America and will donate all the rest of money to them. It is a franchised private group practice (in her home page). I think this is a situation that many academic centers denied her case because of lacking of evidence and risk is greater that benefit. We are all saddened by her dying young. But at certain point, you have to say to yourself, enough is enough, which is a relieve for herself and her poor husband. Again, my opinion may not be relevant to the donation.
Madonna2 发表于 12/14/2015 11:25:18 AM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1940040&postid=70058407#70058407][/url]


也许有人需要这样的信息来决定捐不捐。这样的信息挺好,对大家都是科普。但是justify自己的行为就好,上来评价别人,既残忍又刻薄。
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嗯,绝症人都应该冷静个三个月,读个相关专业的phd比较比较一下哪种性价比最高,最好再读个正儿八经的哲学博士,理解一下生死的意义,然后再确定要不要治疗……

捐不捐个人行为,不捐的非要立个牌坊是几个意思?
lvhuaele 发表于 12/14/2015 11:08:43 AM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1940040&postid=70058159#70058159][/url]

癌症会随时发生在我们任何一个人身上。

帮不帮怎么帮捐不捐捐多少都是个人行为。
有的人帮她出于敬佩,有的人帮她出于喜欢她这个人(不要说你怎么这么容易喜欢上一个人是的我看一个人写东西就会喜欢她)、还有的人帮她出于有过类似的经历或者她跟lg的故事让人感动、正能力、不忍心。
每个人做一件事都有自己的理由,智商高很多地方可以用,不用非得处处彰显逻辑敏捷,我们不是方程式。
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康妈和彭宇案那个南京老太太徐寿兰一样,都是开启一代不要脸模式的先河,对后来人的教育意义不可估量。
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康妈和彭宇案那个南京老太太徐寿兰一样,都是开启新一代不要脸模式的先河,对后来人的教育意义不可估量。
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glida mm每次的发帖都很有营养,必须支持这位有学识有情怀的善良mm。 尤其第三点,我的确也不在乎她家人是否已倾家荡产,安安mm遭此不幸,我也希望她的父母和家人不会因此而陷入赤贫困顿,他们都是好人,精神受到了这么大打击,希望物质上不致于太艰苦了。 插一句,安安mm的老公那么好,相信安安mm本人也是极好的人,才会遇到这么好的伴侣。
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赞~
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至于安安父母或者公婆要不要这时候卖了养老的房子和棺材本,贴补多少,才能轮到大众来救助,对我并不重要。 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quite contrary, it is a key point for me to determine if I want to make a donation or not. In my opinion, it is such a shameful action to ask for a donation before you dry out your last resource. The same issue had happened in 康妈's incident.
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康妈和彭宇案那个南京老太太徐寿兰一样,都是开启新一代不要脸模式的先河,对后来人的教育意义不可估量。
center16 发表于 12/14/2015 11:37:19 AM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1940040&postid=70058567#70058567][/url]

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同意楼主的想法
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re。可以理解病人病急乱投医,但是不赞成过度治疗。
我基本同意gilda 的几点, 但是也有一些不同的看发。 HIPEC is not a standard of care in US for a lot of disease. But insurance still covers in most cases. However, there is no evidence that HIPEC works in her disease. I can not believe that she is going to Cancer Treatment Center of America and will donate all the rest of money to them. It is a franchised private group practice (in her home page). I think this is a situation that many academic centers denied her case because of lacking of evidence and risk is greater that benefit. We are all saddened by her dying young. But  at certMadonna2 发表于 2015-12-14 11:46 AM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1940040&postid=70058407#70058407][/url]
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只是决得到了现在, 安安应该对他丈夫说,停止治料,回家安静地过完剩余的时间。Otherwise, if she cannot have HIPEC, her husband will feel guilty for the rest of his life. Her husband has already overworked physically and emotionally. I will not do that to my spouse if I love him.
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至于安安父母或者公婆要不要这时候卖了养老的房子和棺材本,贴补多少,才能轮到大众来救助,对我并不重要。
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Quite contrary, it is a key point for me to determine if I want to make a donation or not. In my opinion, it is such a shameful action to ask for a donation before you dry out your last resource. The same issue had happened in 康妈's incident.
HeatherJu 发表于 12/14/2015 11:44:17 AM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=1940040&postid=70058654#70058654][/url]

安安自己家的钱肯定是花光了,至于父母公婆的钱是否也花光了,我不关心。

如果多一点捐款,变成实际上最后能给老人留点养老钱,也是好事。
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有钱就捐,没钱就不捐,想捐就捐,想那么多干啥。。。。。。 要是去肿瘤医院走一圈,你会发现可能捐几个小扎都不够啊,所以那些很有钱的人做公益捐款大部分都捐给别的方向了
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