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2016 Winter break 墨西哥cancun 之游记和建议

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[url=http://www.sandoscaracolresorts.com/all_inclusive.asp]http://www.sandoscaracolresorts.com/all_inclusive.asp[/url]


ALL INCLUSIVE DETAILS
This resort is all-inclusive. Onsite food and beverages are included in the room price (some restrictions may apply).

Gratuities and taxes

Gratuities and taxes are included.
虾米 发表于 1/9/2017 2:32:02 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2118954&postid=73801995#73801995][/url]

嗯,我也是这么听说的。lz不要太敏感了。按自己的心意做事,不要去judge别人。
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lz多给几块钱小费竟然得到了这么多的优越感!!这钱花的真是太值了!!


rubialee 发表于 1/9/2017 12:21:41 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2118954&postid=73800801#73800801][/url]
其实lz小费也给少了,150才给15的小费,lz你不知道formal dinner小费都20%起跳的吗?

jsq 发表于 1/9/2017 2:48:11 PM
同感莫名其妙,formal dinner分明没给足,一两块钱的tip还在这找优越感,逻辑太感人了。。。

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同感莫名其妙,formal dinner分明没给足,一两块钱的tip还在这找优越感,逻辑太感人了。。。

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Liberber 发表于 1/9/2017 3:10:35 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2118954&postid=73802496#73802496][/url]
不光这个,房间valet给的都偏少,希望lz平时不是都这么给小费的,不然还真给中国人丢脸
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仔细读下后面lz对中国人的评论,后悔看了这个游记了。前面看着还像那么回事,后面简直自恨的不得了。太自以为是了,简直莫名其妙。
你看看老美在论坛的讨论:

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Completely a personal decision as mentioned. If it helps at all, the following seems to be "norm" and/or how we tipped - of course, everyone does as they are comfortable with, so certainly nothing is ever written in stone when it comes to this topic:




$1-2 -- Baggage handler at airport (should you choose to make use of their services to get your luggage and take you to your transfer - same on departure)


$5 -- transport driver (drop off and return - resort an hour from airport)


$2 -- porter at resort


$2-$3 -- buffet dining


$5 -- a la carte dining


$3-$5 -- daily for housekeeper


$2-$5 -- daily for fridge restocking (not always same person as housekeeper)


$1-$2 -- every second round of drinks (some people choose to tip a larger lump sum after being at bar/beach/pool for any given period of time in a day/evening - we went this route)


$5-$10 -- spa treatments




We also chose to tip:


-- the young man ($2 once) who carted the beach lounger cushions back and forth every day and evening.


-- the young man who climbed a tree outside our room to bring us two fresh coconuts one day ($1)


-- the older gentleman who tirelessly raked the beach twice a day ($2 twice)


-- taxi driver on shopping trip ($3 each way - short distance)


-- private excursion driver ($10 for both ways, about an hour trip each way)


-- crew on private excursion ($20)




Everyone is different - do whatedver you are comfortable with and enjoy your trip! The Dominican people are some of the most hardworking, genuinely kind and friendly people I've ever met - a smile, "gracias" and going armed with a little Spanish is very appreciated, and a wonderful way to demonstrate respect and appreciation :D

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这不是在我帖子里面讨论小费的mm嘛 终于开贴了,太好了! 赶紧给大家讲讲应该怎么给小费,千万别拉了华人后腿 你那个到处旅行的朋友不是教你all inclusive给10-20刀吗,怎么缩水到7-8刀了
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仔细读下后面lz对中国人的评论,后悔看了这个游记了。前面看着还像那么回事,后面简直自恨的不得了。太自以为是了,简直莫名其妙。
你看看老美在论坛的讨论:

#3 of 260 ·

Completely a personal decision as mentioned. If it helps at all, the following seems to be "norm" and/or how we tipped - of course, everyone does as they are comfortable with, so certainly nothing is ever written in stone when it comes to this topic:




$1-2 -- Baggage handler at airport (should you choose to make use of their services to get your luggage and take you to your transfer - same on departure)


$5 -- transport driver (drop off and return - resort an hour from airport)


$2 -- porter at resort


$2-$3 -- buffet dining


$5 -- a la carte dining


$3-$5 -- daily for housekeeper


$2-$5 -- daily for fridge restocking (not always same person as housekeeper)


$1-$2 -- every second round of drinks (some people choose to tip a larger lump sum after being at bar/beach/pool for any given period of time in a day/evening - we went this route)


$5-$10 -- spa treatments




We also chose to tip:


-- the young man ($2 once) who carted the beach lounger cushions back and forth every day and evening.


-- the young man who climbed a tree outside our room to bring us two fresh coconuts one day ($1)


-- the older gentleman who tirelessly raked the beach twice a day ($2 twice)


-- taxi driver on shopping trip ($3 each way - short distance)


-- private excursion driver ($10 for both ways, about an hour trip each way)


-- crew on private excursion ($20)




Everyone is different - do whatedver you are comfortable with and enjoy your trip! The Dominican people are some of the most hardworking, genuinely kind and friendly people I've ever met - a smile, "gracias" and going armed with a little Spanish is very appreciated, and a wonderful way to demonstrate respect and appreciation :D



applesauce 发表于 1/9/2017 3:38:59 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2118954&postid=73802859#73802859][/url]
楼主不管老美这块儿,楼主只盯中国人这块儿
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楼主对小费真是有种蜜汁执着。
这不是在我帖子里面讨论小费的mm嘛 终于开贴了,太好了! 赶紧给大家讲讲应该怎么给小费,千万别拉了华人后腿 你那个到处旅行的朋友不是教你all inclusive给10-20刀吗,怎么缩水到7-8刀了 magicbell 发表于 1/9/2017 3:40:00 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=73802876&postid=73802876#73802876][/url]
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仔细读下后面lz对中国人的评论,后悔看了这个游记了。前面看着还像那么回事,后面简直自恨的不得了。太自以为是了,简直莫名其妙。
你看看老美在论坛的讨论:

#3 of 260 ·

Completely a personal decision as mentioned. If it helps at all, the following seems to be "norm" and/or how we tipped - of course, everyone does as they are comfortable with, so certainly nothing is ever written in stone when it comes to this topic:




$1-2 -- Baggage handler at airport (should you choose to make use of their services to get your luggage and take you to your transfer - same on departure)


$5 -- transport driver (drop off and return - resort an hour from airport)


$2 -- porter at resort


$2-$3 -- buffet dining


$5 -- a la carte dining


$3-$5 -- daily for housekeeper


$2-$5 -- daily for fridge restocking (not always same person as housekeeper)


$1-$2 -- every second round of drinks (some people choose to tip a larger lump sum after being at bar/beach/pool for any given period of time in a day/evening - we went this route)


$5-$10 -- spa treatments




We also chose to tip:


-- the young man ($2 once) who carted the beach lounger cushions back and forth every day and evening.


-- the young man who climbed a tree outside our room to bring us two fresh coconuts one day ($1)


-- the older gentleman who tirelessly raked the beach twice a day ($2 twice)


-- taxi driver on shopping trip ($3 each way - short distance)


-- private excursion driver ($10 for both ways, about an hour trip each way)


-- crew on private excursion ($20)




Everyone is different - do whatedver you are comfortable with and enjoy your trip! The Dominican people are some of the most hardworking, genuinely kind and friendly people I've ever met - a smile, "gracias" and going armed with a little Spanish is very appreciated, and a wonderful way to demonstrate respect and appreciation :D



applesauce 发表于 1/9/2017 3:38:59 PM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2118954&postid=73802859#73802859][/url]
楼主不管老美这块儿,楼主只盯中国人这块儿

magicbell 发表于 1/9/2017 3:54:41 PM
因为cheap的同胞丢他或她的脸了 可惜不是白皮
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实在忍不住了 开始以为tips是关于旅游的提醒及经验分享 结果竟然是关于小费的。做好自己就可以了,不要judge别人。
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大家战队真整齐,和我胃口。lz自己怎么给小费是自己的事儿,没必要要求大家都统一标准吧?我们去cancun时可没少给,就觉得的玩的好,吃的不错,喝的很high。出门吃饭遇上服务不耐烦的,我也会故意压低小费。这个真的是很vary的事儿,没必要上升高度。
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楼主给的小费数额,让楼主觉得自己不cheap ? 给的很少好不好
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这帖子估计要🔥了
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晕死 出门travel lz这小费明显没给够吧 room cleaning一天该至少2刀吧 valet parking 一般3-5刀吧 lugguage一件至少1-2刀
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谁告诉你all inclusive 包小费的,cruise 的bill 有单独的项目写着小费。餐馆里如果包小费,也会有单独的立项。all inclusive的hotel,如果没有单独的小费立项,我default认为是没有,否则应该单独列。Sandos RE的rate是很便宜的,我们2大2小,1/2号以后也就206/day (小孩全free),官方网站的价格是一倍还不是ocean front,就这个中国人还要贪这么一点小费,住的是最好的房间,小费最多也就20刀一天,就这个素质和selfish,和最高等级的member根本不deserve it。

我前面就说过,要说些不好听的话,你不爱听,喜欢做cheap的中国人,你就做去,别进来,我这个帖子要说的就是类似你这种国人,以后也别抱怨别人对你这种人粗鲁,小费给的少或者不给的,你的后代都是来给你还债的。我不管别人,老美给多少,老美有cheap的,有非常大方的,但是国人里大多数都很cheap,而且老向cheap的白人看齐,出来混都是要还的,说的就是你。

wearefamily 发表于 1/9/2017 9:06:15 AM [url=http://forums.huaren.us/showtopic.aspx?topicid=2118954&postid=73799306#73799306][/url]

妈呀,一刀小费给打扫房间的,还好意思说别人cheap。我不敢说自己小费给的多,比你大方那是肯定的了,这个版上估计大多数都给的比你多。你不是要向老美看齐吗?做到mind your own business 是最基本的吧。
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我每天房间里至少2$,如果有惊喜的,毛巾动物,5$
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楼主你赶紧入美国籍吧,以后别跟中国人为伍了
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楼主中加英看的好别扭,地中海restaurant………[em58]
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Sandos 本来就只有三星,不懂版上为啥跟风去那个,墨西哥resort 里面他都不算好的啊。
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鉴于大家都热衷于小费的讨论,我此贴子的初衷并不在于此,后面的也没有必要再写了,大家热衷于label楼主的自恨和优越感。 1) 要说自恨,这次trip,无数的人问我们是中国人还是日本人,我大概能够隐约知道他们为什么要这么问,就连今天去机场的taxi,司机先问chinese or Japanese,我们当然都说chinese,然后司机犹豫的探问,你们是不是会给nice 的driver 小费?这样的问题我还是第一次被问到,都不知道自己应该怎样回答。说道自恨,楼主自认为属于中国人里很有文化归属感的一类。 2) 至于优越感,我不知道什么是优越感,我只知道做事情,对人要“fair”,至于什么是fair,那是自己价值观,世界观决定的。我觉的我小费的rule很fair,我觉的不给小费的中国人非常cheap,少给的人也许非常cheap,也许是缺少knowledge。如果有些人觉的楼主很cheap,那是你们的事情,如果觉的我因为给了这些小费有优越感,也是你们的优越感,不是我的。 我写此帖的目的 1) 非常感谢brooks mm 推荐的sandos,我们几家family很enjoy 2) sandos 的RE vacation club的service是我看到比较差的一类,我第一天来就很surprise。不知道brooks mm 当时的service是怎么样的,餐馆里是不是被人无视。希望再去的同学有点心理准备。要怪就怪那些先来的国人没有给够小费,我们后来的都是还债的。 3) 提到中国人给小费的事情是因为,来这里的中国人确实多,每个都是black band(RE)。而这里的service只是对中国人差,其他的都还好。我只能judge,rationale这些服务生的心理。我不怪这些人,如果我是服务生,我也先去服务白人,人家给小费,中国人10个里面8个不给小费,或者给的很少,我干嘛要去服务。 4) 写这个贴子是为了帮助后面要去的中国人,我自恨的话,也不会写这个帖子。写这个帖子即没有带给我本人任何好处,我也不会浪费时间在这种优越感上面。我是希望改变一下这种恶性循环,中国人多-对中国人的服务差-中国人越不给小费。我每天都要被问到是chinese还是japanese的问题,你们想想别人为什么要这么问。我后面还有好多给后面中国人要去的一些tips,比如currency,waterpark玩什么,cancun和pdc的一些餐馆。。。。不想写了,大家都热衷于小费的事情,我觉的写出来也不会有多少人appreciate,就像那些服务生一样,没有任何意义,对很多selfish的中国人来说,就是浪费时间和精力。 完
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我晕,你在那里就呆了几天,哪里就有这么大的勇气得出结论他们的服务只是对中国人不好?而且还能进而推论出不好的原因是因为之前去的中国人小费给少了?脑补也太厉害了。 你去tripadvisor看看,一堆人抱怨它家服务的
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