Hi,

Just got my 1st offer, oral offer, pending background check.
As I have zero experience, would like to figure out a few basics :)

1. Who decides the exact terms of the offer? HR? or the hiring manager?

2. This is a relavtively big company, HR left me the impression that
the terms of the offer is decided according to the company's policy.
I haven't started negotations yet, as I am afraid of losing the offer :)
--- This is exactly my ideal job.
For big companies, is there some room for negotiation? Or zero?

3. How do I negotiate? Especially given that I want the job,
and they know that I loved the whole interviewing experience and
eager to join.

4. If I want to negotiate, who to talk to first?
the hiring manager, or the HR?

5. Does one have to negotiate? A friend told me that the
company would expect that, so it would be "stupid" if
I don't do it. Should I trust the company giving me
a fair evaluation and not listening to my friend?

6. Tried to search online for "typical" offers for this job,
but failed, as all the info. on those job sites is
too general to be helpful in my case.

Thanks for reading and please share your comments.

[此贴子已经被作者于2004-8-15 15:50:24编辑过]

在HR的offer往上浮动5K一般没有问题. HR一般有关于entry level的工资标准, 但是因为用人部门最后负责你工资的开销, 所以应该是hiring manager最后决定. 好象还没有听说过因为太贪婪被取消offer的. 但是尽量在谈判以前准备好支持你提出工资水平的证据, 空口说出一个大数字比较不能让人信服. 祝好运.

以下是引用cerium在2004-8-15 19:29:28的发言：
但是尽量在谈判以前准备好支持你提出工资水平的证据,

what qualifies as evidence?

thanks.

以下是引用mimiyian在2004-8-15 21:43:39的发言：

以下是引用cerium在2004-8-15 19:29:28的发言：
但是尽量在谈判以前准备好支持你提出工资水平的证据,

what qualifies as evidence?

thanks.

其实除了别的offer, 没有更合适的证据. 但是应该准备被提问为什么提出这个工资水平. 可以说根据以前同学的经验, 或者同类工作比较得来的数据. 总之不要冷场.

同意楼上说的, 不要太贪心, 5k以内比较reasonable.
公司如果觉得you are the one, 不会因为多5k就拒你.
我拿offer的时候, tried to negotiate 2.5k more, 老板还价, 维持原来的offer, 但6个月probation period后自动涨5k, 也不错啊