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cerium

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大公司混的四层境界

This is for big firms which seldom lay off people.

Niu: Always get promotion within department.
Successful: Always get promotion by transferring department.
Normal: Not much promotion and stay in one department.
Loser: Not much promotion even keep transferring department.

According to the experience of a VP in my company. He get promoted from bench scientist to VP in 15 years.

取个大题目, 嘻嘻. 仅适用于不解雇员工的大公司.
优: 在本部门扶摇直上.
良: 跳来跳去升职.
中: 呆在一个部门, 久不升职.
差: 不得不跳来跳去, 还升不了职.

有感于前两月宣布一个新任命的VP. 从一线操作者到VP仅15年时间. 而且是第一代移民.

[此贴子已经被作者于2004-3-26 20:28:06编辑过]

lesley

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应该还有一个level叫做: big loser: not even have a job at all
呵呵，偶就是这个level的。

cerium

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以下是引用lesley在2004-3-26 14:52:03的发言：
应该还有一个level叫做: big loser: not even have a job at all
呵呵，偶就是这个level的。

That is not right. This situation could be ready to change soon. However, those above is doomed.

cucumber

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人算不如甜酸啊。比如有一天那个lose忽然r继承了亿万美元的遗产或重了个彩票什么的，别人还会觉得它是loser吗？

cerium

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以下是引用cucumber在2004-3-26 15:58:38的发言：
人算不如甜酸啊。比如有一天那个lose忽然r继承了亿万美元的遗产或重了个彩票什么的，别人还会觉得它是loser吗？

The follow up study showed those who have won big lottery did not live well through his life. Most of them ended up poor and miserable. I just wish I could win a lottery to buy a house.

tonyzh

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有趣哦，呵呵

tonyzh

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[此贴子已经被作者于2004-3-26 19:50:55编辑过]

xradia

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Could you let me those companies?

valentina

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以下是引用lesley在2004-3-26 14:52:03的发言：
应该还有一个level叫做: big loser: not even have a job at all
呵呵，偶就是这个level的。

不急,不急. 面包会有的. [em07]

xradia

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Could you let me know those companies' names?

cerium

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以下是引用xradia在2004-3-26 20:43:04的发言：
Could you let me know those companies' names?

满多的吧. 万人以上的公司, 有国家定单的公司, 制药厂.

coldhan

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有道理. 会混也是一门学问哦！

jami

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大公司要怎么混呢？
偶觉得大公司是不是假特多，然后活特轻松？
然后其实好像水平不需太高？

混的好的关键在於人缘关系？

小公司呢？
大概要看干活溜不溜巴？

gather

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big firms are not always desired anyways.

laugh

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staying in same position is not a bad thing at all. Don't just regard management as the criterion of success.

being inreplaceable is the key -- be important, be respected, be recognized.

those mean money. a manager means he knows the business. it does not mean he's successful.

my standard is simple: money + happiness.

laugh

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根本不是这样的。

我在大公司里。我去年一周七天，一天8-16小时干活，干到半夜一两点也是有的。这个完全是看你自己和项目的情况。大公司里更难混，方方面面都要照顾到，技术活也不能拉下。

我们项目是多年ongoing的，五大洲几百个人做，那么大一个系统，管理起来和实现都异常复杂。

没有说好混日子的。当然想混也没人拦着。看自己怎么打算了。要是自己不知道自己到底喜欢什么是最失败的。要不自己打定注意混日子，享受生活，要不苦干。

以下是引用jami在2004-3-27 0:20:13的发言：
大公司要怎么混呢？
偶觉得大公司是不是假特多，然后活特轻松？
然后其实好像水平不需太高？

混的好的关键在於人缘关系？

小公司呢？
大概要看干活溜不溜巴？